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44年的反击 HONDA 桑的荣耀

Raverdave 与 Honda 桑的“DARK SIDE OF MOON”是于44年日军仍占优的战报: j& L5 M& L4 b8 c& `
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相比大家熟悉的PAUK桑,HONDA桑在直到42年初成功占领了印度(未攻下卡拉奇)及澳洲大部但KB受创。/ p  O; K5 ~: L8 Z& @

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. ?  I3 p) a8 E2 v1 S* a$ ~  i4 l以下为双方主要战舰损失:: h) A2 H9 l4 Z8 s
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0 T# a, ~% D- o- j以上可见 实际上HONDA损失了以赤诚为首的4艘CV/CVL 相比PAUK桑的完美KB将少近200架舰载机。
7 u4 o: ~- |6 ^4 W/ V- F, p2 }由于美军CV能重生 HONDA桑在44年面临的较不利的兵力比。+ l$ Y3 W5 K" S# f
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但一切都在44年6月被打破了# D1 d7 V4 w5 V' x* H* T. e
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与几乎所有成功的日军反击一样
- P& F5 _. X$ l7 S首先在米军进攻中 以岸基战斗机消耗米军的战力3 G5 @! J/ N: G  A) I

9 z( J. D- H0 X- D8 ]  L44年6月2日 吐鲁克!
6 q& J5 [& N8 p  {! k. S& J" tJapanese aircraft
8 e6 X( l6 Y5 D3 S, ?/ k; d6 SA6M5 Zeke x 147 % z$ \2 i" W: Q$ W7 E/ t) x
J2M Jack x 38 - K4 D+ Q4 ]' K8 K" ^3 C
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 31
1 T0 ?& E3 Q: j) RKi-61 KAIc Tony x 6 . I, Y: c: x3 ]6 S8 Y
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 30 + z& {1 ]; A& @- R% i" `/ v
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Allied aircraft # a) L) y+ y9 w6 z4 K2 z
FM-2 Wildcat x 68 / x+ I5 A6 s/ {7 x8 S1 }: j* w
F6F Hellcat x 182
$ j% X, e' X9 v7 b( z, RHellcat II x 6
" g3 `7 A) b. P7 c, b( LSB2C Helldiver x 174
4 I* b0 s# k% g1 V. G9 zBarracuda x 12
2 i3 E9 Q3 g$ M) WTBF Avenger x 50
7 ?) f# ^# b+ ?3 Z# K" CTBM Avenger x 232 3 {8 s3 z: ~2 V+ `$ B3 y+ N9 u3 H
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Japanese aircraft losses " W3 K4 X# r. f- ]8 i
A6M5 Zeke: 88 destroyed / \/ y  Q  a" Y8 Z4 S& z( D
J2M Jack: 18 destroyed, 2 damaged
; N5 I; ?+ J% Z6 O0 J7 g; UKi-43-IIIa Oscar: 24 destroyed ! `$ ~( x) Q$ }# l2 r& ~  T6 U8 g
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 4 destroyed 2 B- {! U. P" D1 W, m. u
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 14 destroyed, 2 damaged ( U9 a+ u5 t6 T
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Allied aircraft losses
/ y* U. ]3 X0 u2 O3 e: SFM-2 Wildcat: 66 destroyed 6 k! `6 ]4 E  E) f3 T! J. Y# i. V
F6F Hellcat: 143 destroyed
. ], {. e. `8 m- N- m: c) L: |Hellcat II: 4 destroyed
- f. K6 m- M" B: C; s+ T3 k' ?SB2C Helldiver: 30 destroyed, 10 damaged
* k+ l' \; ^5 y0 p6 e% A* G: ]4 i3 LBarracuda: 1 destroyed
' G& {- J- @- i/ n% Y4 eTBF Avenger: 10 destroyed, 7 damaged
6 r2 n: d( l3 ]8 j  _' iTBM Avenger: 45 destroyed, 13 damaged
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Japanese Ships
4 ~& ^. B1 H% v' w8 K2 L; X' m  e- LAK Fukuei Maru, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage 9 Q3 k8 F& v' O8 Q* Y2 k
MSW Chitose Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
; s4 l8 H4 k- L1 rAK Amaho Maru, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage ! r8 L/ q( a  _  m4 b
AK Oyama Maru, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
% s3 u/ _! B- `. f# h$ XMSW Toshi Maru #2, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage ( k6 s5 L$ o1 p
MSW Atsu Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
9 O6 N4 Z% R+ D6 c6 P" SMSW Wa 9
% i2 V' f' b- ~) I6 n4 y2 LMSW Choyo Maru #2 / |1 V- M2 E4 i$ H& v
AK Yamabato Maru, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage & |6 r: a- ~0 `% ?
MSW Wa 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage ) d1 c0 n5 M/ N: |
MSW Tama Maru #2, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage 5 ~, n  S6 \. C6 x" i% @( I
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Aircraft Attacking:
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6 p& f8 l  j  i- V( @# |1 WJapanese aircraft . _3 P8 T( E6 M& x
A6M5 Zeke x 75
# H* d' A% V4 s& H/ f& BJ2M Jack x 25 ! L; a; B& v$ |
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 8 $ _% o/ Y4 i  t) N0 t
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 8
) ?0 z" N* [, b- vKi-84-Ia Frank x 19 3 u+ f1 u1 B$ s& x8 p7 d
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Allied aircraft
; d, p/ L5 \5 y" z7 n" F7 qFM-2 Wildcat x 60
) ]  z3 B7 A$ f' _F6F Hellcat x 142 ; k% w) r+ {7 I5 i4 k, f! T2 h
Hellcat II x 4
% A5 j, Y- B, s+ H2 R( ySB2C Helldiver x 137 0 _' _, a, o- Z2 k: k, c8 D! \
Barracuda x 10 : S; m9 u6 L, N8 E) _
TBF Avenger x 37 ' w% @, r2 F$ i7 k8 Z3 X: h
TBM Avenger x 185
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$ M- m  D* L9 |Japanese aircraft losses 1 x1 E  n7 I7 c4 A. ]) J
A6M5 Zeke: 43 destroyed ( @  ]) F/ c, Q+ y) ]/ e5 l' g& t% O
J2M Jack: 15 destroyed 3 l5 d8 n/ O' ^: w) r
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 5 destroyed
* t( G4 B8 B( f) }# m& CKi-61 KAIc Tony: 6 destroyed / O7 \& T  v7 j% K) y
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 16 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses
0 w1 G% ~  X+ v0 \. CFM-2 Wildcat: 40 destroyed
/ }" y6 y# U: i& `4 C9 B/ ]F6F Hellcat: 102 destroyed
% z# B$ Z1 S) r9 m1 U! SHellcat II: 2 destroyed 0 P8 a; K- a/ g( ?& t" X1 g
SB2C Helldiver: 15 destroyed, 30 damaged 7 c3 V7 P" R5 Z
TBF Avenger: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
/ N2 q( U) O" w  zTBM Avenger: 21 destroyed, 48 damaged - ?3 Y; W# |) x. f- g& t

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AP Hakozaki Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage ) e* M6 K1 _2 ^1 a
AP Amakusa Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
% k' \7 w; ^2 Z2 `1 @3 _AP Nichiai Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
' @5 _& J. n  R6 K$ YML Naryu, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
" _& g# `5 l7 Q7 c3 }AP Neikai Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire - ]0 J# j9 @* U' F2 c
DD Namikaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire , y3 A4 _) S' A$ Z' o7 U" H! v0 c
AP Toko Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage 5 M  u4 q; s$ _+ \
AP Shoun Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire / G# U1 w  [' v
AK Ina Maru, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage ' o( s4 i) W3 w. Q4 C
AP Zenyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire ' L8 R0 a3 L3 Q# H! O! s$ L. X
ML Shirakami, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage $ L; J1 S8 c" g+ E
SS RO-33, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage 6 K4 v- i  Z& H# [1 W# U
AP Chifuku Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire + V' h/ N5 P: C+ y9 ]* l, @* W: ^
AP Somedono Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage * x2 A" L) m& v" S( X. X
AP Urato Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage ( j& \6 t! O9 A0 l6 J
AP Shozan Maru, Bomb hits 2 / v9 I- S$ a3 V* j2 W: @7 R( a3 t
DD Karukaya, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
. N& _! @# @$ Y- z3 PAP Koan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage ! H* z( Z( l! T& Q, r
AP Giyu Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
& s" H. w- O* E8 y- N; CPG Saiko Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
) M+ ~: P' u0 V8 @/ }. _" vAP Hinko Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage & v" [5 V9 X# T9 X. t1 [
AK Isuzugawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
9 j, F/ P" ^, I1 D9 LPG Myoken Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage 3 e, Q5 y( E7 [$ \! v
AP Hanakawa Maru, Bomb hits 1
7 q& `" A3 V& O4 W  Z% `AK Hyuga Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage ' V  B& D0 P# X
AP Teizui Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage 5 K5 U& @  F; u0 W$ }
AP Anzan Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
9 d" [7 a6 s2 _0 e/ t7 z2 GAP Fusemi Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire 0 \  Y" Y  x) e" G( P) X5 \
AG AG-353, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage 6 {2 b' u- U, Q. S/ r3 j
AP Kashiwara Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire 4 M) Q* k: h% h! Q5 I
AK Tokiwasan Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
4 |# k) h, f1 I: \+ G5 J/ L8 X- H2 nAP Eiko Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire % F6 B! u; I! V1 N2 d, k# S6 I$ H
AP Sanura Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage ) U" n3 s; ?" ]  o* N, ]7 g
MSW W.4, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
1 ~) ~2 x" H# y9 I# E2 yAP Tatuho Maru, Bomb hits 1 . q9 V3 j* {& l+ f1 ]; A. @4 N5 f% f3 A3 w
AP Tatuwa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
( v" z$ {  G7 j+ JAP Hakutetsu Maru #13, Bomb hits 1, on fire
9 U7 v6 l! t% Z5 Z! x7 x( H2 gAP Kasima Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
0 O: e% w! ?# j4 I. GAP Taizin Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage . n. m$ w- r; {
PG Nanpo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage 0 d0 C1 V* o; `+ a0 P( g" Y4 G
MSW W.9, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage ( w" o9 _" E& m+ w7 M1 O8 Y
AP Taijima Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
- Y8 }6 w/ u+ ?# u; iAP Kumakawa Maru, Bomb hits 1
" W) G, C/ [8 z; C$ _AK Cheribon Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
7 _* S" n  t! QAP Hawaii Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
8 c. s( I) f1 m$ G" ]+ `% KPG Eifuku Maru, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
! Y* I3 i4 C8 tAP Ryoyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire 6 G" T% r/ V8 w% M. U
AP Toko Maru #2, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
- z; e. T9 M6 R$ S# L) YAK Tsukikawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage 7 N  _& \0 T- P, @3 t$ T" K
AP Heiku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
5 W" v( o" e5 J% h8 ~0 vPG Kantori Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire ; A( K" c: O! P: _* K/ m
AP Yasukuni Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
! v1 |  t5 j0 F/ j: P' R! vAP Tientsin Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage - F4 \/ ]8 |  H2 T
AP Hikade Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire 9 d9 Z+ Y  J, Q& x6 @8 g
AP Hokoku Maru, Bomb hits 1 + `! y3 p  D, x4 E
AP Netsuda Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire % c; g) k% m) B
APD APD-1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
: N) ]# ?1 g' j" NAP Unkai Maru #6, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage 4 h' P) S" x3 }4 C* F( e1 T
AP Hikawa Maru, Bomb hits 1 , h8 _- ~6 z! _  G
PG Shinko Maru #2, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Japanese ground losses: # w1 B2 @8 o" r# n4 L$ k2 {  Q
313 casualties reported % O/ ?9 E- n) X5 p- c; m
Guns lost 17
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" n* T6 p! I' p, T7 ~1 hPort hits 18
3 ^+ y: d, n3 L  G1 ]Port fuel hits 4
% f! H1 k0 }/ K. UPort supply hits 3, A3 d. W1 q( i) D# }

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1944年6月7日 KB 登场成就了几乎无伤的完美雷霆一击  
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5 ?# e% t0 b' u2 xJapanese aircraft + G# c  l3 O* h  p+ }
A6M2-N Rufe x 24
" G1 \0 X, P* |: T" L0 IA6M5 Zeke x 329
) z( H/ z! _( }& T! j7 o# ^# zA6M3a Zero x 14 ) t5 t; t( D- p+ k

6 p- N1 f" ?8 b! h3 LAllied aircraft + b8 Q3 e* T  O" I
FM-2 Wildcat x 47
/ S5 b2 a( y9 w  t% S& ?; U& b, OF6F Hellcat x 202
# R6 N$ H; t' i; s& z2 FHellcat II x 4 5 B0 \. L  K) c6 G5 y$ B
SB2C Helldiver x 53
/ ]9 U4 x3 k* p* h* j8 G8 @$ G9 vBarracuda x 11
( y0 L4 v$ z2 e4 N! ETBF Avenger x 79
2 e4 d7 @+ Z$ V! z( F. ^8 G6 c* bTBM Avenger x 213 * e, u, [, v0 F3 P  n7 z& i

" F* `, n, L6 e" tJapanese aircraft losses
; K) ^. _% s$ i! GA6M2-N Rufe: 24 destroyed
8 b' C7 o; E0 N% J2 s" \A6M5 Zeke: 134 destroyed, 18 damaged
8 a/ i# t2 Z4 ~' Z7 |8 ]) X( rA6M3a Zero: 14 destroyed * E- }# T* n7 U' L# d1 h8 [
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Allied aircraft losses
4 D& b0 _* j2 {6 ]0 q2 w  DFM-2 Wildcat: 47 destroyed
  |# [8 ~; ?  Y8 Q3 LF6F Hellcat: 196 destroyed 3 Z9 P1 Q) M) O8 y: e- R6 N2 Y
Hellcat II: 4 destroyed / f7 \' I! k& n6 n. G9 d: w3 c9 b
SB2C Helldiver: 18 destroyed, 6 damaged # e, d) Z- v- O& @* d4 @
Barracuda: 9 destroyed
- W  d' _7 U5 h# R# k+ P; ^TBF Avenger: 67 destroyed
  _0 `2 t- o9 U9 ?7 j) u7 }TBM Avenger: 165 destroyed
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5 a0 ?* b) q+ u, `5 P) KJapanese Ships
/ R) h8 K1 i* }" c9 K' cCVE Kaiyo
+ U8 o9 W. Q& R, b' P( a8 C! `3 }% uCVL Ryuho " [& _; o, Z8 R$ n# y6 n' S
CVL Shoho ) b0 O* l( @5 b' F
CVE Shinyo
3 V$ A' w* m1 ~) r% X+ t" g, |; e4 JCVL Zuiho
+ h- }! @$ _& H& S7 w$ P1 O0 aDD Uzuki 7 k) ?3 R& E" _
CVL Ryujo
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" X/ G. ]  W, A) K7 F% O/ I# U/ h/ r  aDay Air attack on TF at 75,79   F2 l4 q) h4 o. _! u# k5 D
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A6M5 Zeke x 93 ' ~' y7 t6 G# o$ M2 n  Y- E

! `/ F- ^& y! O1 uAllied aircraft 8 ?; f7 q# b( D; V
FM-2 Wildcat x 12
- `$ j2 x' M4 B3 v3 C! ETBM Avenger x 56
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! D, ]/ G2 T' R2 ]/ z0 iA6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
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$ Y: {9 U- g2 Z* j; XFM-2 Wildcat: 11 destroyed 0 {( q* i. n' m6 L" H
TBM Avenger: 46 destroyed - @) c2 ~' h9 ^% }& y! ]" W7 `" a
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CVL Ryuho 2 k* @' }5 {# c+ p, q# P
CVL Ryujo ) _8 z7 K2 I+ A
CVE Shinyo
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Day Air attack on TF at 75,79 ( h' n; L( P6 m. L; _: F0 |, D8 A
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A6M5 Zeke x 89
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6 S) a" ]- v6 f9 E! X' W9 S. dAllied aircraft
* {4 L+ h1 |! d0 N6 E& A! bF6F Hellcat x 7
9 m8 K7 g+ e% F" \7 qSB2C Helldiver x 33 1 _# ], C: o! o: z1 ?
TBM Avenger x 18
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$ g; }9 Y5 r7 J6 E0 VA6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
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F6F Hellcat: 6 destroyed
/ ~  m  @3 ?4 ^5 K$ Q6 t! Z5 {" y. ~SB2C Helldiver: 13 destroyed, 7 damaged ( j5 }. H+ {9 G5 V$ D8 c$ u
TBM Avenger: 16 destroyed
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Japanese Ships
9 c7 ?, b% t# \CVL Zuiho
$ h# T1 M+ N: d2 E0 v5 G8 @+ H2 LCVE Kaiyo # t4 t8 s8 X/ c2 L; H2 E
CVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 2, on fire
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. F& X/ r/ Y/ ?0 Q* p; }Day Air attack on TF at 76,83
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) r" r& d3 S* r5 T% g4 CP1Y Frances x 36 0 P. `* R& L% v# h
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FM-2 Wildcat x 76
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$ P( X+ D. G5 k$ v" i. b) d- A4 J' bJapanese aircraft losses
! m4 P9 G, F) N! p- _, k( B- wP1Y Frances: 24 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses
4 d6 O& L3 j$ b2 _8 RFM-2 Wildcat: 16 damaged " r1 s( J) N0 H& j. c

/ h  f+ |. S9 n  m7 AAllied Ships ! @$ }8 {( y6 ]" j) x# I+ y
AO Mascoma, Torpedo hits 1, on fire + @0 T7 o( |/ Y, F: P7 e
DE Osterhaus
/ p3 e% S3 r( ^6 W$ M1 SAO Schuylkill
: f( Z* ^! }4 GAE Jacob Riis + v+ Y  H2 A, K0 }  y
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Day Air attack on TF at 77,82 0 [" o4 P6 ?; T( _
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Japanese aircraft 2 {- `4 q3 F+ D0 k5 T. w
A6M5 Zeke x 24   a- r$ G& A; s/ L0 j* P
G4M2 Betty x 5
! f- ~' l: G/ z0 VKi-61 KAIc Tony x 6 1 G4 K8 v. I& w9 Z& h
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 79 ; N/ g( x( c0 Q5 o! s  R: [

; ^0 l4 b1 \1 u. H5 Q1 z) ~% GAllied aircraft
/ A) Y9 B: p, ]& Y6 o/ I' q  m, }FM-2 Wildcat x 62 3 `/ x  ~) b- O6 b! }
F6F Hellcat x 224
) M1 c/ c/ h# P3 _& m5 nHellcat II x 8 9 i2 R) V7 E3 \: u5 Q

. p/ g5 G) E+ a, N  w- t3 yJapanese aircraft losses + k+ F- B8 j, [
A6M5 Zeke: 24 destroyed ( ?4 k. v8 h4 k# P6 {
G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed   A% D( d  v: D( ]' m! C& ]. v
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 6 destroyed " s; E# U( d* q& d2 z3 r7 [* r
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 77 destroyed 7 Z# B5 F$ @9 i  m3 H, b/ n
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Allied aircraft losses
  t8 o) l; {1 l7 }0 Z- n$ Y# EF6F Hellcat: 45 destroyed, 15 damaged
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1 `& _1 T4 R  X: _, t/ F" d/ m4 Z/ SDay Air attack on TF at 77,82
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5 |5 w8 W9 p! TA6M5 Zeke x 215
, x* r2 D! J6 v$ j0 T  E5 QD3A Val x 36 ; H8 m7 i% G  W1 O/ x6 C
D4Y Judy x 312
# A/ y# z, N. a  b* dA6M3a Zero x 10 , {: |' A% L* C  ~7 O" q) m6 L& n
B5N Kate x 58 : t/ [: Q  C; Z. ]  o2 f. G
B6N Jill x 178
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Allied aircraft ' n$ ~! o. E' O  n3 P: ^4 P
FM-2 Wildcat x 30
: E0 F  k$ O8 v& {8 QF6F Hellcat x 85
2 I# b$ [$ V- E  ?! g* J/ a+ u5 lHellcat II x 4
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Japanese aircraft losses & S' r4 I( j/ L  C; L" R, e
A6M5 Zeke: 197 destroyed
: b$ x8 O$ l( q5 x# O) ED3A Val: 5 destroyed, 6 damaged ) [# s6 B9 ~! Q
D4Y Judy: 79 destroyed, 23 damaged * [8 `) ?! B0 A) P: H
A6M3a Zero: 9 destroyed 5 V# _2 z& t$ U* y7 ?
B5N Kate: 23 destroyed, 10 damaged 7 w/ _! _7 T/ G& T- w/ t0 V6 E
B6N Jill: 50 destroyed, 25 damaged : p) F; b: U% p2 D6 w; j5 s
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Allied aircraft losses : x4 m$ {8 a8 B; j. Z3 q
FM-2 Wildcat: 20 destroyed
' h1 M5 @( [4 ZF6F Hellcat: 122 destroyed
+ W# o8 r/ ^! A2 KHellcat II: 3 destroyed 9 f5 Z* \* U  P5 X! t* R) e

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# B4 g& r, j4 {CV Bunker Hill, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage / D6 x$ i8 ?8 n8 Q
CV Illustrious, Bomb hits 12, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
6 W7 S) ]% ]" `6 mCVL Monterey, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage ( p# z5 f- Q- \# w$ f. \2 `
CV Wasp, Bomb hits 11, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage 7 w  D0 z' |# j: W& T0 ?5 L" m
CVL Langley, Bomb hits 20, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage 4 q& {$ Q: b# E/ M. i9 X, W
CVL Independence, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
1 O& O, Y. a+ L% |% iCVL Cabot, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

3 i% @* W+ x3 ]% v; m0 }CA Canberra, Bomb hits 2
2 |/ r; Z* k8 GCA Louisville
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Day Air attack on TF at 77,82
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Japanese aircraft
& M& F* Q1 n2 A. tA6M5 Zeke x 11 , Z( `2 S/ C: G- Q2 Q* L6 U
B5N Kate x 18
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FM-2 Wildcat x 19
8 N+ E  G  J9 \( e, aF6F Hellcat x 26
: m) M2 K: W1 o' M- \0 _5 X- JHellcat II x 2
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A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed - w6 ]5 z) J! P4 O) F' R9 Y: k% J; Z
B5N Kate: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged 7 A% C- F0 v$ ?5 i

4 E! c" d* Y/ |% f, M" B* iAllied aircraft losses 7 X& [8 T  s8 e0 q/ g
FM-2 Wildcat: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
* M9 L' Q  n) xF6F Hellcat: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged
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6 p, m" A. g7 uCVL Cabot, on fire
" Y3 z4 c. H! S( U6 Q& o: P+ f3 @& _4 |CA Canberra - C9 W4 E  }6 u& E- q' X
CVL Monterey, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 77,82
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Japanese aircraft
9 y) p; s1 q3 g% oA6M5 Zeke x 11
1 B% L1 \4 G# k$ o7 Z6 TB5N Kate x 24 7 _* s& C, Z: f% T7 `& f

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FM-2 Wildcat x 18
# l- ^6 G/ Z7 T5 U5 D, W+ uF6F Hellcat x 22
7 _, y* o# `9 U0 I* b" yHellcat II x 2
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A6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed 7 }% f  |. f0 |; c/ {
B5N Kate: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
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) l2 [1 G0 D) A  E: J' W" PFM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged " P+ c/ P. ]) ~# ^6 Y
F6F Hellcat: 6 destroyed 0 M% m  ~' Y+ q. A9 Y1 j1 E8 H
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3 G/ ~' C# |0 W, ^; z  SCVL Independence, on fire, heavy damage , t9 O% U$ z& a1 m; ~  A: j5 J
CV Bunker Hill, on fire, heavy damage 9 d& G4 g/ u# H1 F7 D) G8 \
CVL Monterey, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage ' i8 U. _  E. t3 c( R( b& s% Q

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' p/ u4 P* y0 \A6M2-N Rufe x 3 ( M/ J2 G: {2 v- }+ F5 a4 \  m
A6M5 Zeke x 110 / t& n! ~7 F4 K8 X/ {
A6M3a Zero x 1   F$ M$ ?" P, Y9 m5 [
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Allied aircraft 7 B7 d1 l3 O- m* X
F6F Hellcat x 9
9 A6 ~7 ?9 |+ nTBF Avenger x 3
8 v+ h/ j, C1 P5 B5 I4 i7 h) C* @TBM Avenger x 2
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Japanese aircraft losses 3 B+ K* L. R1 ^9 Q4 l
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed 0 A6 f# K# w8 I/ D* ^& l- o5 X
A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses 9 W- y. u8 p. [$ M$ t' z7 \% Q  _5 }
F6F Hellcat: 9 destroyed
  f* r6 ^4 Z0 ?  k# [8 QTBF Avenger: 3 destroyed . z! D# W4 D% k9 u8 B( V$ w. h
TBM Avenger: 2 destroyed ( }& P1 ^, H6 f
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Day Air attack on TF at 75,79 $ i% l" a& i9 A' }! p
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Japanese aircraft . G/ b9 _3 G7 [3 J) }
A6M5 Zeke x 106 1 ?5 s) b% H, G/ g4 ?( ?9 @( W
A6M3a Zero x 1
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$ l, i" L' J, j0 [; rAllied aircraft
* e/ I6 u  q7 D( r$ D& t/ sFM-2 Wildcat x 4
9 J( S: q' O1 M  s4 Y6 WTBM Avenger x 2
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A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed
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4 a( r4 k  P$ D5 }: j" LFM-2 Wildcat: 4 destroyed
0 P6 k& z6 R! c/ s+ X) VTBM Avenger: 2 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF at 76,81
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1 z" m' D# O+ h3 g" p3 x4 ZJapanese aircraft : E; Y7 E2 P! |. J- w; ]7 @
P1Y Frances x 14 2 x; i- V! z$ {6 x" S
Ki-84-Ia Frank x 3 : G0 J, m9 V6 L3 w! D2 m; w
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/ z5 H6 }( s: p' u/ QF6F Hellcat x 18 ) V1 T- U3 r0 G- H

+ X/ J) A- L9 y, o! PJapanese aircraft losses
; N" `" ^; d. a6 l1 }1 E' i$ g6 oP1Y Frances: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged : k2 j+ u  g( c* c% C% z
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 3 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses
* C) O4 y) A' [1 YF6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged ( u4 c  ^0 h" ?6 ~. o7 w
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A6M5 Zeke x 83
: X9 T1 y: S& L$ ^D3A Val x 24 " C; X1 W  l* [$ }
D4Y Judy x 194
# U9 k, b5 i7 s& e) S; O9 [! R; qB5N Kate x 50 2 t- I5 j( B4 d: {
B6N Jill x 100
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F6F Hellcat x 17
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Japanese aircraft losses 6 |; [! V- V% T8 H! c4 N
A6M5 Zeke: 15 destroyed, 1 damaged - s: c! }. F( P" q8 h
D3A Val: 4 damaged $ r4 r0 T) b/ k3 j4 b% I* o1 {0 x% P
D4Y Judy: 7 destroyed, 11 damaged
0 g0 D- s: `6 [- g7 FB5N Kate: 6 destroyed, 16 damaged " K4 x6 e- {1 a; E: K
B6N Jill: 7 destroyed, 21 damaged
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5 d2 U. l) i& m' TAllied aircraft losses 5 |0 N, a5 l, z$ q8 D) n
F6F Hellcat: 17 destroyed ; `3 z5 w# ^8 j- S* X7 g$ j; ?

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! w5 P. d4 T6 f- B4 M6 xCVE Suwannee, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
) u, w2 p  W0 GCA Astoria, Bomb hits 1, on fire
5 b, I- A; E. S9 m+ vCVE Chenango, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage ( v* y' M" O$ B
CV Lexington, Bomb hits 20, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
5 k9 ~: n- }* BCVL San Jacinto, Bomb hits 11, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage ' x/ j# |% Y; c$ S. @& }
CVE Sangamon, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage % Z1 T* W9 i, o1 n. H( T
CV Franklin, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage . \% u  X2 ?  _+ C% S' b* F6 \
CVL Bataan, Bomb hits 12, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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CA Concord * n5 {; m( e: s3 S
CL Hobart, Torpedo hits 1; n6 N: V- F; X( Z: V; m1 N4 G
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由上可见 44年日军须有以下成功要素:) M. u& F" A' E/ |$ O5 W7 m
1, 完整的KB
3 G0 w, ~4 o5 r1 B% L2, 坚强的基地(让米军陷入 日军在中途岛的困境)
5 F4 V% Q+ B% W! M4 n  Z3, 高经验的海航(HONDA 的海航经验在80-90)
6 \. l/ w4 h  m; k- g* a) L' o9 F0 H4,    足够数量的战斗机(即便面对被岸基大大削弱的TF58 日军战斗机也以重创为代价来保证攻击机突防): G5 r- b7 \: ~/ R9 v5 C
5, TF58须被大幅削弱6 J/ V7 p1 [7 k0 u- F) [# h
6, 不能有大量的F4U(最好英军的CV在前期被击沉)3 R/ ~& [  \; G2 u
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总之 HONDA桑成就了 一战击毁5 CVs 、6 CVL、3 CVE(可能战果还会扩大)的完美反击) U$ h) Y/ T- q1 A& ]9 n
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以上为在下的抛砖引玉  `8 q* Q7 I' Z" O" u
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希望同好们周末快乐! BANZAI!' F- y# c7 X3 {% o- g% G6 A% }
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2008-2-23 11:09 编辑 ]
研究中,美军为什么要试图攻打土鲁克呢?那地方感觉足够硬
这就是不限单格舰载机数的明例啊~
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800架的特大号协同实在是匪夷所思啊
不能这么说,在44年以后就不能用房归对于日军作限制,否则米军指挥官也太次了。
这一次光舰载机日本就多了一倍,还有陆基,神仙也得完蛋...
TF 58 舰载机数量不少 只是在攻击吐鲁克时有损耗
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限单格舰载机数 对盟军也很不利
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这局是限制 机场容量的。 对于后期攻略众多基地的米军而言 限制岸基 不限舰载的规则是有利的
单从KB的完整 和盟军44年后的永久损失来看 还是PAUK桑 的战报的交换比吓人
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这个战报中 HONDA桑的反击是建立在 KB受过削弱 米军却已重生的基础上的6 m& m9 ^; |" a8 B1 F7 B0 o3 A- S* N
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能有这样的完胜 说明!  用日军的玩家 要有信心 不要TJ!
这局日本开了PDU吗?怎么TRUK第一波的时候日本这边还有奥斯卡......
原帖由 talentpanzer 于 2008-2-23 11:51 发表 * t9 P4 w% h# `' n) Y+ Z4 N
单从KB的完整 和盟军44年后的永久损失来看 还是PAUK桑 的战报的交换比吓人
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这个战报中 HONDA桑的反击是建立在 KB受过削弱 米军却已重生的基础上的
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能有这样的完胜 说明!  用日军的玩家 要有信心 不要TJ!
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这个战报说明日军要想44获胜,唯一的条件是盟军玩家与自己存在代差
这战报在国内明显不实用~~看看F6F的损失就知道F6F的飞行员根本没经过训练~换做80经验的F6F不可能有这样的结果~~另外对于盟军傻了巴鸡的行动
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所以各位观众~不要认为该战报有什么了不起的地方~这只是盟军的水平还有差距而已~~% u; W7 @+ u  S6 m
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另外用载机数限制单格CV数量没什么不妥~~否则到了44年~~相同水平情况下~~日本面对盟军登陆没有任何办法~~
I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears, and sweat.
本来就是激励大家
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2 W7 C1 N3 S. |$ p/ g1 Y$ P+ ?在国内44年遭遇这种失败,估计米军头子是没脸见人了
如果盟军打算TJ,我报名替补
一万年太久,只争朝夕!
肥龙san捡破烂捡上瘾了...
开疾风的那些家伙好象也不怎么样啊
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