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[AE] 塞班岛攻略，自娱自乐,本档结束。

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有点郁闷了，我在tinian起飞了40多架pb4y-1,b-24j轰炸saiban岛的日军地面部队，战果太小，不知道怎么好了。
  用侦察机不停的侦查，saibai岛的DL是9/15，tinian岛上有空军HQ2个，5级的机场。空军支援都是多多的。
  6000米设定高度炸伤4个鬼子，后来烦了改成100米轰炸加机炮扫射，只伤11个鬼子，就是用砸蛋也不是死这点人吧，飞100米低空还损失一个b24。. W0 A! v( J, e: z# L9 M& n, W
那个weik岛上的日军怎么一轰炸就死几百呢？连火炮也炸毁，weilk岛上的日军我完全是轰炸光了再派人上去的，怎么用到轰炸saiban 岛就不行了呢？! P* N7 I! m. B! m# b* n$ r
我现在把saipan岛上日军兵力说一下：
troop56020    guns312    afvs2354 R2 J1 F/ u* E7 @( G
部队人数和火炮，这个我们都知道，我现在忘了afvs235代表啥意思了，大家看看中文版里这里afvs是啥意思。告诉我。
我现在考虑到难道是机场5级的原因吗？非要到7级？也不会呀，我轰炸weik岛也是4，5级机场起飞了啊，炸的蛮好啊。6 R; a' A/ |* i: [4 q2 j; p1 B
我是哪个环节没有注意还是怎么，大家看见了告诉我吧，多谢，等着啊。
我玩的是AE1108里的44年5月1日开始的小剧本---夺取塞班战役。急死了

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你先去买点军事类书籍补补课再说吧

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ak49

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你要是知道就说嘛，估计也就是一句话的问题。
我来吆喝一下，走过路过的大大，知道怎么解决问题的就指点一下，不知道的就顶一下。多谢。

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WITP二年突击勋章汉化表彰(二等宝鼎勋章)

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AFV是装甲车辆" T- N. d" Z" r- `+ _7 W# w! q
看过风语者米?!看过就不该奇怪了

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汉化表彰(二等宝鼎勋章) WITP一年突击勋章

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你先去买点军事类书籍补补课再说吧' D( }4 y; E: Y, Y
kesselring 发表于 2011-8-8 22:18

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对的，要不然就又是一个戈林，空军足以歼敌了

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ak49

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点击不少，回答没有，我就不知道了，是你们不知道怎么回答呢还是我的问题太简单你们不想回答。. y" [1 ?, l! k' O) j1 I, Z
在没有解决问题前，我还是不指望空军的轰炸了，调兵直接抢滩登陆算了。

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banian

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如果按照实际数据，塞班岛的地形不利于飞机轰炸和舰炮攻击。
该岛面积比较大，山峰、沟壑多，还有很多岩洞。9 {2 s" A6 I$ Y: O( d

优势部队登陆好了。你要么战舰列先炮击一段时间，看看效果。

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ak49

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banian君说的该岛面积比较大，山峰、沟壑多，还有很多岩洞。这个很有用，我估计就是这个造成轰炸效果不好的原因了，我提问就是怕我轰炸时忽略了啥，果真是地形的原因的话那就只有登陆了，我现在的抢滩的部队马上就快到塞班岛了。塞班岛上有57000日军估计战斗得要慢慢熬啊。多谢banian君的回答。

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在我盟军强大的火力面前，塞班岛上的57000日军节节败退，今天是44年12月31日，经过数日的激烈战斗，盟军夺取了塞班岛，鬼子的防御工事从一开始的5级被盟军工兵拆毁到0级，5万多缺乏补给的鬼子逃进老林。" I5 h/ Q5 V/ o; e2 B  j

round combat at Saipan (108,93)( o4 Y# W' d: @6 c' d2 L$ K
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Allied Shock attack* W$ h: [: n. m& W

Attacking force 53562 troops, 1147 guns, 1136 vehicles, Assault Value = 2116

Defending force 29344 troops, 272 guns, 208 vehicles, Assault Value = 655! k! |+ O: L/ E* A
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Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 01 ^9 ?& J/ [7 @0 m

Allied adjusted assault: 1870

Japanese adjusted defense: 325

Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0) 4 ?8 W5 h  L' B# n% X( f

Allied forces CAPTURE Saipan !!! : Y; U% v0 K4 @
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
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Japanese ground losses:
   4881 casualties reported
      Squads: 19 destroyed, 67 disabled4 C; b" |  X. a; m4 d5 @
      Non Combat: 124 destroyed, 184 disabled  v3 |- }5 X7 N! _* X$ d
      Engineers: 155 destroyed, 1 disabled
   Guns lost 63 (62 destroyed, 1 disabled)- O1 L( l% K: k5 Y5 m8 u
   Vehicles lost 146 (146 destroyed, 0 disabled)
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Allied ground losses:' z) f2 t8 }+ R1 n  e
   3357 casualties reported
      Squads: 7 destroyed, 170 disabled% z( s' ?% ^5 k/ S
      Non Combat: 29 destroyed, 365 disabled
      Engineers: 1 destroyed, 21 disabled
   Vehicles lost 111 (25 destroyed, 86 disabled)$ k6 p- U# x1 X0 z- j! x
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Assaulting units:
6th Marine Regiment
25th Marine Regiment
98th Infantry Division
77th Infantry Division
1st USMC Tank Battalion) ^* t) t4 A! s% R% U# E! x  S
24th Marine Regiment7 y, {/ Z. B; Y+ S% i
3rd Marine Division3 @% m7 a0 K# Y0 ~/ b- I7 @
23rd Marine Regiment; d! x3 R# {. X4 I5 @9 R$ w- V. I
708th Amphib Tank Battalion$ w* }: ]+ U7 v6 k- t
111th Regimental Combat Team
706th Tank Battalion
2nd Marine Regiment5 c  N- F# g+ `
V US Amphib Corps
III US Amphib Corps
225th Artillery Grp

Defending units:! ^' M% h4 j1 D1 q* d
55th Naval Guard Unit
Yokosuka 1st SNLF
47th Ind.Mixed Brigade! w/ K, K% o; B- f# l- s6 q% b3 \6 E
9th Tank Regiment2 ~& B; k* b, l/ T) l
11th Ind. Engineer Regiment
Saipan Naval Fortress
43rd Division
41st Naval Guard Unit6 E% {7 \6 u3 m- x2 t4 X% k4 w( e
3/4th Indpt Tank Co % J4 X; p) t, h& J( N
III./9th Infantry Battalion
150th Infantry Regiment% b' [6 z" F7 S+ i5 l% T
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade* U, |" w8 G( R7 D: T1 i! B
16th Shipping Engineer Regiment
5th Special Base Force( o5 ]$ m4 l$ l! c
31st Army
7th Ind. Engineer Regiment
25th Field AA Machinecannon Company. R5 @% u& L& z
10th JNAF AF Unit % A$ X# V4 E( P+ D0 K

塞班岛战役比我想象的要简单，我估计每天40多架重轰在鬼子头上下蛋蛋，虽然没有弄死几个人，但是对鬼子的士气估计有巨大的影响。

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RE:塞班岛被我盟军占领了，下一步就是清剿岛上的日军残部了。

塞班岛被我盟军占领了，下一步就是清剿岛上的日军残部了。

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  今天是45年1月2日，盟军修整了2天，今天发动猛攻。
Ground combat at Saipan (108,93)

Allied Shock attack
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Attacking force 52097 troops, 1148 guns, 1121 vehicles, Assault Value = 20420 {6 F9 m2 R5 o0 J  x( Q! ]
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Defending force 24884 troops, 208 guns, 64 vehicles, Assault Value = 5306 `* @' n/ F3 Z5 C+ S

Allied adjusted assault: 1418

Japanese adjusted defense: 157

Allied assault odds: 9 to 1 * E4 A- |1 J) J: ]8 P8 C; n6 P5 y# G

Combat modifiers8 B/ i7 X* ^- c* K; h, m4 |* G
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)# v7 G, |6 d( B4 B2 J2 }) K+ T: o
Attacker: shock(+)
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Japanese ground losses:4 |' e1 g; i7 O9 B
   5054 casualties reported) M3 n0 x' ^2 Z4 o6 Q$ C* i+ N! o
      Squads: 153 destroyed, 28 disabled
      Non Combat: 261 destroyed, 79 disabled
      Engineers: 4 destroyed, 25 disabled
   Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
   Vehicles lost 20 (16 destroyed, 4 disabled)+ V" @& O5 A9 _0 ^4 r3 B
   Units destroyed 2

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Allied ground losses:+ Z1 j! Z5 i0 B
   1837 casualties reported. k( H$ g, d2 j# x1 c) ]- {) W
      Squads: 9 destroyed, 111 disabled
      Non Combat: 27 destroyed, 208 disabled8 [/ ^5 f( B) F) I
      Engineers: 1 destroyed, 30 disabled9 ?1 p% |3 F1 Y) O. S3 O. j9 o- E$ b
   Vehicles lost 76 (19 destroyed, 57 disabled)

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Assaulting units:/ H. Q5 [' N2 U
3rd Marine Division% L1 o6 D4 l7 u8 S
111th Regimental Combat Team
77th Infantry Division1 b4 U# T& F; H# {% ?
23rd Marine Regiment5 Q/ ~! ^2 T# ]. Q- C& ^
98th Infantry Division
25th Marine Regiment% y, _1 \: v( G: b
24th Marine Regiment6 O9 \) L; b/ ~
708th Amphib Tank Battalion
1st USMC Tank Battalion5 k4 [. i' ]4 v) u5 @1 F
706th Tank Battalion# l' x* W9 |$ S# M$ H
6th Marine Regiment
2nd Marine Regiment1 J4 c) m; _/ u3 D4 R5 Q# g6 X
225th Artillery Grp
V US Amphib Corps. R2 z- \8 L5 }5 Q$ K
III US Amphib Corps
109th USN Naval Construction Battalion! V9 g! e+ f! t

Defending units:
150th Infantry Regiment
41st Naval Guard Unit
9th Tank Regiment
III./9th Infantry Battalion
Saipan Naval Fortress
55th Naval Guard Unit
43rd Division9 n; z4 s, f9 Z! s; I" F6 y3 O! a
3/4th Indpt Tank Co & M1 Y9 S8 C- @; m
11th Ind. Engineer Regiment
Yokosuka 1st SNLF9 P  _, `% z* U" N* X
47th Ind.Mixed Brigade
28th Ind.Mixed Brigade
31st Army
25th Field AA Machinecannon Company
7th Ind. Engineer Regiment
5th Special Base Force' H) u" j7 \7 t: k! Y$ e& W2 u
16th Shipping Engineer Regiment5 P8 F8 H- c4 V. i0 K% O) Q
10th JNAF AF Unit ! T6 t1 l0 c& U+ t7 ]* i
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  看来鬼子缺失补给后，战斗力弱了许多啊。
今天第一次用AE给舰队补给AA弹，很顺利，蛮高兴。看来只要是到了45年就可以使用AE军火船了。& a. o5 o3 e2 t. \' w
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我先发帖询问空袭效果，现在我明白了，先日军躲在5级的防御工事里，我空袭效果很差，现在日军被我盟军赶到野地里了，现在空袭效果好多了。Morning Air attack on 47th Ind.Mixed Brigade, at 108,93 (Saipan)
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Weather in hex: Light cloud
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Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.$ A! Y% f% M+ e7 N$ S
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
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Japanese aircraft% ]" G. @2 P0 X+ n& \9 w% Y
   A6M2 Sen Baku x 11
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Allied aircraft
   B-24J Liberator x 9
   F4U-1 Corsair x 27
   F6F-3 Hellcat x 59
   PB4Y-1 Liberator x 21

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Japanese aircraft losses
   A6M2 Sen Baku: 6 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses
   B-24J Liberator: 2 damaged' h$ `' ?$ ^8 ~
   PB4Y-1 Liberator: 2 damaged; l+ {5 j0 e* m
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Japanese ground losses:: t! a6 T+ b+ V5 E/ N5 Y. U; o$ N6 ^
   60 casualties reported
      Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
      Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled- B6 ~9 U( j3 J+ ~' c
      Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled- k( H+ r0 B6 ^  f
Morning Air attack on 5th Special Base Force, at 108,93 (Saipan)
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Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.+ E% R9 M% t- }! [' c1 v$ g; ~
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft. u" q! q3 L3 j0 l- k
   A6M2 Sen Baku x 3
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Allied aircraft
   B-24J Liberator x 11  |3 \2 y0 X# n& ^# Y
   F6F-3 Hellcat x 53

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Japanese aircraft losses
   A6M2 Sen Baku: 1 destroyed$ {1 z1 W1 w/ L+ b2 c

No Allied losses0 |( M$ U) n) n3 D/ _
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Japanese ground losses:& y; w! `' n0 o6 |1 Y$ C: n
   23 casualties reported
      Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled, c0 J6 B9 l( S' u" x) X' T
      Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled& f  J. S4 x0 Y+ M
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两次空袭造成日军83人受伤，以前就伤几个人是天壤之别啊。

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咋修改帖子的标题，我看见大猫和酷猪和我打时候帖子标题根据战况随时可以修改的，怎么弄？

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自己明白了，

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嘿嘿

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12日，攻击。
Ground combat at Saipan (108,93)

Allied Shock attack# `6 T% G5 W" J# x

Attacking force 64554 troops, 1359 guns, 1387 vehicles, Assault Value = 2525
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Defending force 10360 troops, 139 guns, 37 vehicles, Assault Value = 52
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Allied adjusted assault: 1801
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Japanese adjusted defense: 3
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Allied assault odds: 600 to 1 . _# f6 ?9 s  u4 I* b

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-): `, F3 ]. \8 @1 V: Z
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Japanese ground losses:! V: w  M( C4 W% j- Q2 y
   12353 casualties reported
      Squads: 194 destroyed, 5 disabled" x* R' M& o/ S+ U
      Non Combat: 1028 destroyed, 47 disabled9 C6 S' U4 p  k1 U: ^) v
      Engineers: 55 destroyed, 4 disabled
   Guns lost 175 (175 destroyed, 0 disabled)
   Vehicles lost 38 (38 destroyed, 0 disabled)
   Units destroyed 9
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13日盟军休整一天。8 ]- a& o+ V0 h* l1 A# {: ^: u
14日最后的攻击开始了。Ground combat at Saipan (108,93)9 J1 l1 N9 o! [. ?4 y# U
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Allied Shock attack' i4 z% r/ i3 v! \4 j# R
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Attacking force 65140 troops, 1359 guns, 1389 vehicles, Assault Value = 2562
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Defending force 1482 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 7

Allied adjusted assault: 3086

Japanese adjusted defense: 1 8 J  C7 t# L0 F- `" V0 B
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Allied assault odds: 3086 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)! \1 M7 B) t2 `& H5 P" F7 t  M
Attacker: shock(+)( |& I7 M/ d' M  H. d( K0 ^# c
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Japanese ground losses:3 I2 U( H* u* A8 m# C% p7 [
   1867 casualties reported
      Squads: 28 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Non Combat: 214 destroyed, 0 disabled5 |2 T/ H6 P7 z" F) B# `! w, G
      Engineers: 12 destroyed, 0 disabled
   Guns lost 17 (17 destroyed, 0 disabled)
   Units destroyed 1$ G2 o8 v, s6 V

Allied ground losses:
   7 casualties reported
      Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled, W$ J2 X1 X8 R: u* }
      Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

到现在为止，塞班岛的日军全部消灭了，本档也结束了。
最后祝大家玩的开心。最后点数是6800:1200盟军大胜

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