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官網上 PZB 的對戰最慘烈.- F1 R" J0 k+ Y8 D% [
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日本玩家進展最好的Sneer  & Raverdave 的對戰, 此公打下中國 + 印度 外加 珍珠港.
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* q) Q( |5 G8 g[ 本帖最后由 wildcat 于 2006-12-6 17:45 编辑 ]
原帖由 浆糊 于 2006-12-6 17:37 发表8 T" X/ |9 S3 ?# R/ U# R; V7 U
楼上的推荐几个精彩战报的链接吧,我等去拜读一下
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, r! N( `$ a3 P( {' ghttp://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=988842 (sneer vs Raver)6 B4 q( K3 j8 w# m9 \& }2 Z8 q- Z% l

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http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=997347 (Andy vs PzB)
原帖由 逍遥 于 2006-12-6 19:14 发表1 V8 J! k  j1 c
PzB的战报里面有几个很奇怪的地方。
8 K! [$ a. s, Y6 y2 E7 a他的KB似乎损失很重,而美军的航母好像没有受到太大的杀伤。7 \7 j/ n. ?* X  V6 u2 W+ V
还有一个,他提到美军的BB只剩了10艘左右,这个也不知道具体的情况。
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6 U' E+ C1 u# z4 f/ O战报太长了,找不到战斗的详细情况。 ...
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目前 PzB 跟  Sneer 都遇到相同的問題. 就是 43 年後 A2A 不管日方經驗&機數佔優勢,在面對 F6F + F4U 的 CAP 下, 損失非常慘重% D, n% u& U: j0 G. n! {# ?. j

7 [2 Y6 I' A; b8 n. y這在CV 對戰中, 對日方不利
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/26/43 ! J( x; K. U1 z+ Q. \
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TF 1162 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84)
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Allied Ships 8 z; @  T* g) |' r- c
MSW Cromer ( X' o2 {/ E  P, A$ F1 e( T
MSW Goulburn   j% t- V- B" _" d0 c
  
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, ~, [8 m, P( A1 K! pASW attack at 37,69 1 n! `) o5 @: a& X/ w
  
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4 v* p# P* g2 O$ n% i- mPC Ch 22   P+ m% Z9 C7 t) ]+ _
PC Ch 20 & a0 W5 D% \+ {7 _
PG Taiko Maru 8 Y- ^' z8 P1 y. Z+ L* P
PG Shosei Maru 9 Q, R2 s) v5 `
PG Seiko Maru # x( a( j4 n+ J, u% r" x5 N
PG Keiko Maru , y+ k9 R" J7 J$ ]
PG Aso Maru
/ f- j- R1 R' O9 b' {0 U* YPG Tamo Maru #7 , C5 u# M& G- z- v$ w0 m
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Allied Ships
3 n' R  R, m, g' qSS O23 + r( d4 R- q# [0 R  b. U$ o! u
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* i! [: G9 f! R) R, S& }Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78
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Allied aircraft
8 V$ S) V% P- o# y1 v3 w9 MBeaufighter Mk 21 x 3
# a* t) E- X% R7 P8 ZF-5A Lightning x 2 4 F2 i- n9 `- P4 Y( ?: p+ ~
B-25J Mitchell x 135
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* Z4 }3 d, [# y& ]/ b! JAllied aircraft losses
5 j6 _3 d, o0 b2 sB-25J Mitchell: 9 damaged / [1 @! t' `$ c2 @, s6 p
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Japanese ground losses:
$ Z( c  n+ A4 H$ i163 casualties reported & q6 M& f# d) ^
Guns lost 1 + k  [) v) R/ y% b. ^
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Airbase hits 6 7 L6 u' ?8 F2 a: T/ h0 ~
Airbase supply hits 3
/ w' S) O0 T  H+ k4 [& rRunway hits 126
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/ d3 T0 [( ~3 k' T' y! aAircraft Attacking: 7 |2 D, B1 _- b& @# @8 @% g
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet / G; R& k3 {2 ]8 t& j& h
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
6 P: g% ^6 a/ ]$ ]1 K3 a# v2 S3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 7 O0 V' O" F3 i0 m3 ]
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet , G( ]0 k& q' H
16 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
, p( k1 ^: a0 y24 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
7 k+ k4 }1 @6 Q& X) h( K13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
: w& K- j2 `, t& C5 w4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
* A, `2 b5 s% z3 A  `3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 9 p5 j' F- ~7 l; G* Y( x7 ?+ h
10 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
$ R- ]& H& u& X4 W13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ( d. ]0 K  m! A, q9 [; l3 [" E
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
+ z' a' W: ~( o$ h2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 3 F' i. d$ X; d. |
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
9 |( y. ]! ^+ Z6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
+ F3 T0 b/ W7 L8 s6 Y  I& X2 S2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ( v! u% s0 M. ~5 U' P+ m
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
! n+ c2 F$ Z9 X. f) Z4 j' b5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
9 _# a0 @7 r! w, R  w3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 8 O2 l4 W7 p2 C1 B8 F
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet - E) E/ c% v# s3 A4 h, D
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53
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D3A Val x 54 ' g+ ?7 K$ B0 v% r' _  w! X# }
A6M5c Zeke x 47
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: c& `& s! i# t3 GNo Japanese losses - D4 j3 f* `, W) I& y. {, ~9 l  S. [
  
. r+ \- g0 e/ |  ~: O: `% CRunway hits 30
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) h8 I; @; E4 {3 P. Z# U27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet ( E* J! A( \. g- P" x8 R
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet   L8 `7 `( n5 t1 S4 P6 J  D
47 x A6M5c Zeke bombing at 2000 feet " y! N; ]2 ~; W
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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! Y# P" `/ @0 D( H! ?$ r' PJapanese aircraft 8 J1 Y; Z. b; _
A6M5 Zeke x 84 - k& P! C* B* b! ~1 B2 o
D3A Val x 98
2 T$ d8 b6 x- g) P6 Z$ v: ~D4Y Judy x 95 + _( P5 D* [( e$ Z
B5N Kate x 129
6 f+ j0 Z/ G" P3 Y; Z8 SB6N Jill x 47
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Allied aircraft
  c* i6 r+ `, `) tF6F Hellcat x 147
; H* k2 x6 s- n5 cCorsair IV x 24 # n% S" }, y6 p8 B
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Japanese aircraft losses : m! {2 p7 z- L! o6 y- ?
A6M5 Zeke: 84 destroyed
0 m( I: T0 v. Q2 W9 f+ {D3A Val: 73 destroyed # C" u& V0 D1 z0 D6 [
D4Y Judy: 72 destroyed 4 n; I! j/ W2 {4 |  o0 u
B5N Kate: 106 destroyed
; W+ T9 g) d" v1 BB6N Jill: 40 destroyed ( A/ y/ I6 @- R
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Allied aircraft losses
; h( A8 Q0 o; PF6F Hellcat: 27 destroyed, 10 damaged
7 e2 i* n; A# ^; |0 ]' pCorsair IV: 1 damaged ; W8 E% ]( k; X( c/ w8 _) Z
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Allied Ships
7 t( d/ c" N5 D, H( |- ^CVL Cabot % g3 o% `& c6 i  u. Y; u
CV Illustrious, Bomb hits 1
1 \6 f" e% ]/ `2 M2 f. [CV Formidable ) J$ T+ ^7 H6 w3 {8 [4 _
CVL Langley ! j) j1 u7 }/ d) ]  t
CLAA San Diego
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Aircraft Attacking: " @& [1 ?7 V# A  v, X
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet # h5 J1 B0 B/ u6 z
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
! c7 H, n/ n- T. N9 N  o1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet & m7 `# ~& H, x8 M. ]+ u* ?
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet 1 e# Q4 s8 r: I$ ~5 K& e. u; ^( w
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
" g, y9 i) I: i- _* w) h1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet ( h8 e; u+ n( g4 @
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 J1 v. X, Z9 i/ M4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 m+ b) v" S* ?- \2 U1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
5 S3 _7 s3 v2 {' s( g" W2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet 6 u( n( ^  t  Z- I
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet 8 p8 _: O9 @' ?: r7 C, q2 P, H2 h
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
# A4 ^% Q% s- q# Z2 h5 ?4 E1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet . e5 g2 b" S& Y% M
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
# i! B: ?) Y, Z/ s( W4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 0 l) S8 |9 q: I, e5 G7 |/ ^. ?
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
" G9 g  [8 G; B# F8 G- K( `& j, B9 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
- G; g- y0 E* x: v3 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
' l, q* V  k5 ]% `& K3 V3 c; h8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
- {+ n2 {9 O' x7 o4 p: {$ X6 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet ! S" R7 q. _- f
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Japanese aircraft
" o5 e) m" u9 u4 w" Q. P3 [A6M5 Zeke x 6 0 `7 v* Q7 q) v
D4Y Judy x 27
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9 p1 `; {6 z8 }$ s* r0 d6 h) CB5N Kate x 18 7 i4 {( a% Q8 l; H' O
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Allied aircraft
: Z, m# s% R, P. k! _" }& M# bF6F Hellcat x 120
- g' J# G2 q- [# F5 H5 g$ fCorsair IV x 24
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% ?; q! k3 m$ D7 ~/ f( RJapanese aircraft losses
) o4 N! Z; q; C. A& N3 BA6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed
, t: C: B0 ^& c" V' g! z% SD4Y Judy: 20 destroyed . j& f5 o# Z2 F  h- @3 y: ^
A6M3a Zero: 7 destroyed ' R' F. E' u6 N
B5N Kate: 17 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses
* P5 p# ^: m( Q8 UF6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged 9 ^; A1 I' a* N6 s4 D
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Allied Ships + D# Z( n- F9 q! C$ }1 Y
CV Intrepid, Bomb hits 1
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4 c4 Z" b) p1 [4 M3 rAircraft Attacking:
% d8 b6 C. E, \8 h+ V1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 6 m: x6 L. ?' b! {+ `, e
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 $ p7 V) X+ D7 I1 u9 U2 ~
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Japanese aircraft
$ J3 C1 S9 B! o6 {- fA6M5 Zeke x 9 5 S. |$ \& A6 R( a2 ^$ O9 t
D3A Val x 9 # x1 u8 t4 G' ~
D4Y Judy x 27
% [: i1 _4 U* X, v/ ]5 i: X2 tB5N Kate x 18 ; f* |& f2 Y5 ~% U" X
  
, D3 T: \0 I' U% G1 ~+ FAllied aircraft
1 e' O9 C- C2 T% |5 Z5 ?1 nF6F Hellcat x 115
( k. g5 S( A( _) B) X! ^# A' n) hCorsair IV x 24 + `$ l5 z. z) R2 u% b: g
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Japanese aircraft losses ( M/ b0 V  R* P, X$ e  h
A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed $ b6 ~" C$ n) e2 Y8 w/ F1 |6 @) }
D3A Val: 9 destroyed
% H  ?- \% f1 D* l2 bD4Y Judy: 21 destroyed 1 u7 T* z% P; @9 i$ A% e/ i2 I
B5N Kate: 10 destroyed # L/ t# C; k6 n4 c
  1 B  A7 X; H& G8 S
Allied aircraft losses 2 q" p) |! }: w$ O5 e
F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed
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' ^! B8 \3 t) ICV Bunker Hill, Bomb hits 1,  on fire ' r- G8 W3 L- R+ X# }
DD Sampson, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
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Aircraft Attacking:
: U# C/ ^  W, Z% t1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet ( n4 m/ c7 x2 G" l& w5 x3 h6 F4 D
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 6 E3 R) u1 e- c. S1 |; w
5 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet # S) J. S/ j9 t  D5 V
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* t8 G) x1 G; y3 _# jDay Air attack on TF at 14,79 8 y# s2 v: K& h2 w
  
) j+ S3 E; K4 XJapanese aircraft 8 A1 {' |, p/ i8 x* h: F  B( @, Z
G4M1 Betty x 6 : b1 m% L. H6 N+ ?' C9 G$ m. p1 K/ e3 x
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Allied aircraft
8 R* d  @' K! y5 SF6F Hellcat x 98 2 W. X' O. _0 {8 F& g2 z+ D& |
Corsair IV x 23 / i. h. k) n' N" u; J5 |& l7 C( X
  
2 N& e* J. L( `+ k  `. kJapanese aircraft losses
3 C8 V- E; a+ NG4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
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% e2 _8 [2 `9 W+ [/ Z8 jAllied aircraft losses - N0 I! D7 p5 W4 b1 M
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged + \- ^, c6 x6 z
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 % F& x. i& A: w6 h  A$ i* e/ y
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Japanese aircraft
0 W3 i$ r0 |) Y( ?2 rG4M1 Betty x 3 7 X- b( D2 \3 ^6 F/ ]5 F' k
  
3 x2 d, V& r7 {: sAllied aircraft 1 Y4 f8 `& k! z# s7 N: A2 O
F6F Hellcat x 98
& B* e0 q+ {- N* x. XCorsair IV x 23 : H0 |% Z6 \6 t1 l, `
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Japanese aircraft losses 8 }0 _, V3 h, w+ G
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
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7 {7 a7 l( `" p8 s# VDay Air attack on TF at 14,79
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& G) a3 s! j1 ^' cJapanese aircraft , y; @. m% D: C$ z* M
A6M5 Zeke x 50
8 x* [, h0 r! h  t0 kD3A Val x 15 - F4 f9 x5 \+ U, w$ x
D4Y Judy x 15 # r! P0 l" I# y" L( l8 ?
A6M3a Zero x 6
# Q6 x% [+ k+ e/ AB5N Kate x 17
1 l! c8 ^& O9 A( _( q1 M5 _B6N Jill x 2 ( G# M6 ^0 J% h/ [) l
  
- H8 v+ d/ C( n4 a" k  LAllied aircraft ' }4 M0 N. F+ @% ]) G/ v
F6F Hellcat x 98 + v  H3 Q% f8 K
Corsair IV x 23
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Japanese aircraft losses
" T: u8 _& T% P# y% b0 f: f4 lA6M5 Zeke: 50 destroyed
) P4 Z( d; y6 q/ h# `6 ^, k! e, FD3A Val: 12 destroyed
/ x% i- @  |4 ^D4Y Judy: 9 destroyed . r" G1 ?: [+ @* V& b  [$ l
A6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed
6 `; I; C. }- pB5N Kate: 16 destroyed - ^* D% M/ l6 c7 s# u
B6N Jill: 2 destroyed
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1 ?, b& r) R, E" E5 P3 a$ lAllied aircraft losses ' D$ }7 p* J7 m
F6F Hellcat: 15 destroyed, 9 damaged
9 P4 ?, \% S- y  cCorsair IV: 1 destroyed ; j: {& q/ @3 K3 [; g  }) m2 H
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Allied Ships
( Z2 F8 _6 ?$ p( y7 S0 m% dCV Formidable $ G1 h' `; C: X+ c2 R
CV Illustrious
( O: W  m& F; ?+ f) _6 S/ gCVL Cabot
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# }8 O, ]1 |' c7 V1 B. Z7 mAircraft Attacking:
0 i' c* V+ y2 ^& T% b% d2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet " W0 |. h7 ~1 X# \
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
, L' I: o) H- K% k( v( n1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet  
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! V/ z# \) i  U[ 本帖最后由 wildcat 于 2006-12-7 11:07 编辑 ]
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-6 18:23 发表8 ?4 [/ {' T; ?. @( E) \1 `3 D
PzB vs wobbly的我一直有看,他的战报既详细又配图,sneer的无图,不知道哪个位置说打下印度、中国和珍珠港,不过现在盟军已反攻到印度的詹谢谱儿了
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! [9 h3 _2 r4 @7 N/ ]2 C , 看太多戰報,  可能記錯了. 應該是Sneer 另一個戰報吧. 原諒我
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-7 11:10 发表
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这个例子里日方护航机数量太少了,面对接近200架F6F能突防就不错了
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& j5 z5 F4 v- J( a  I" \+ Z80+ exp 的 Zero 52 型 vs 60+ exp F6F 打成這樣. 真像獵火雞
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