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官網上 PZB 的對戰最慘烈.
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日本玩家進展最好的Sneer  & Raverdave 的對戰, 此公打下中國 + 印度 外加 珍珠港.
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[ 本帖最后由 wildcat 于 2006-12-6 17:45 编辑 ]
原帖由 浆糊 于 2006-12-6 17:37 发表' n  m9 J; q) n2 E) E; \
楼上的推荐几个精彩战报的链接吧,我等去拜读一下
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0 j' N. j- c6 Chttp://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=988842 (sneer vs Raver)
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http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=679803 (PzB vs wobbly)
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" V$ [+ H- O6 B8 e4 thttp://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=997347 (Andy vs PzB)
原帖由 逍遥 于 2006-12-6 19:14 发表
8 U* D) m4 s) `. j- FPzB的战报里面有几个很奇怪的地方。1 Q# b) v, F4 B
他的KB似乎损失很重,而美军的航母好像没有受到太大的杀伤。8 C' [: |: o1 V' L9 u
还有一个,他提到美军的BB只剩了10艘左右,这个也不知道具体的情况。
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- V7 a$ V! R( w4 C+ Y7 @# t' n战报太长了,找不到战斗的详细情况。 ...
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目前 PzB 跟  Sneer 都遇到相同的問題. 就是 43 年後 A2A 不管日方經驗&機數佔優勢,在面對 F6F + F4U 的 CAP 下, 損失非常慘重$ l5 ^0 H9 i' I

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/26/43
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9 R! ]8 V% y% l  _TF 1162 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84) 7 r5 B* e$ ]) N. r$ i
  
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MSW Cromer
4 g( \7 Y4 l* ]6 F8 b: _MSW Goulburn 9 D5 P. ?. d- h% T* I) _3 g
  
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% t2 G/ B9 T" n7 kASW attack at 37,69 ! M) C" k! g8 x' s, l$ g/ U
  
" Z  K9 b6 a7 |( M+ ?1 D7 bJapanese Ships
: b8 e1 k6 C7 ]& S; |- k" IPC Ch 22 . ^; o/ Z. z% K. _- r. t# ]# R) y3 \
PC Ch 20 3 f8 R* N5 G; V: ^: |# a; z1 R: Z3 D
PG Taiko Maru
2 y  n9 k% m0 `1 }+ C1 g% SPG Shosei Maru
+ P! G, j* q( z2 j) }' G. XPG Seiko Maru
: U4 C5 g+ U$ J, {2 sPG Keiko Maru
( F" G' ?  u1 W6 ~1 v; u& zPG Aso Maru
6 X- J9 V8 z0 s: ?( ePG Tamo Maru #7
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Allied Ships
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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78
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Allied aircraft
# w; |) v+ Y% R( |  Q9 f. nBeaufighter Mk 21 x 3
# F6 J& S0 i) aF-5A Lightning x 2
9 l/ J* H# G1 o2 h1 c8 ]B-25J Mitchell x 135
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1 V( m- ]# a( E- cAllied aircraft losses % q0 V! ~+ s8 T" a. k! x/ I  {
B-25J Mitchell: 9 damaged
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2 F  m! ]- G( K4 t; b0 {Japanese ground losses:
% V- C  w* i/ N( H) c9 `5 \0 Z2 a- c163 casualties reported
  F7 ]7 y$ a7 R1 T, t- UGuns lost 1
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, _" q, G  ?6 vAirbase hits 6 2 h: z$ P& _$ Q, c$ j. M
Airbase supply hits 3 . j) V' k2 e2 T* ~& N, c, J5 N
Runway hits 126
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Aircraft Attacking: 7 Y: s' s& C, k& b, E6 C
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
' p/ e4 V" ]3 s5 Y4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 C9 v/ |1 R' }9 i3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet * ?1 B6 m  z( K* V
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
( L1 L/ @* ]0 [. x. N0 D6 }16 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
# Z. ^7 B6 n6 ^8 [+ `; @. F( `24 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
2 w3 G+ x. a7 n13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
' t, D+ D" M' {+ K9 M4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
) i( _. ~" ]  k$ i4 ?) x3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet . R6 E% u3 R3 b6 Z- ]9 k3 S
10 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet / m* q+ [( c+ u( P. ?7 R5 L  ^
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
  U  ^1 [* [/ P/ V8 x) n3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet : d3 Y2 ]! t! F! ]$ F# f5 A
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet # j, v0 j  P! b& Z. G
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
& t! T5 d% S' U- c6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
7 ?8 [7 Z6 h2 h/ X2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
/ j, \+ `; r3 {, k( h7 z! S4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
. K8 f5 e% ^2 t' s2 o5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
$ h" J# V$ |7 `. ~$ [2 v+ X9 y3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 r$ b, L3 {% R3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet - `+ B6 \1 b' I% j
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ; G7 M8 g5 H2 c' I2 I
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53 & ]7 H1 E' ~* j
  
& r/ G5 j+ l1 |Japanese aircraft 6 ]  a% n* |) b3 ^" _( X
D3A Val x 54 2 x! X+ b5 H5 i
A6M5c Zeke x 47
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- _+ |+ p4 E. N3 S' d% S- L! RNo Japanese losses , X# M- @3 Q5 V4 m6 u) K
  
# K" n" y0 L8 ZRunway hits 30 6 L0 m# E# \& g0 y
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Aircraft Attacking:
% e% D4 v& u, F! d4 H1 ]# G/ z27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet - A6 E, U9 s. C
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
* T: o- N$ y8 {. e47 x A6M5c Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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& s/ E. F, ]9 \2 _4 yJapanese aircraft : x% w* i6 ^: q, s) C; a' u
A6M5 Zeke x 84
- l$ t0 ?/ r5 a* ~' n6 H& c* s6 ^D3A Val x 98 3 K1 y# H( {' f8 B$ s/ ]0 ~& B  X
D4Y Judy x 95
/ {. l$ j6 |: A, w. ]B5N Kate x 129 , z5 W6 C; j6 S3 J2 o# _
B6N Jill x 47 1 |+ d; x( r5 _" k) M8 a5 A3 Z
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Allied aircraft 2 L+ r) `. h5 u- {' e3 l
F6F Hellcat x 147
  O, s) d) |# [) z1 S/ ^Corsair IV x 24
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Japanese aircraft losses 2 j6 a( Z) L; `; N0 z8 t
A6M5 Zeke: 84 destroyed $ z  L" w. q/ W( r/ w7 l2 k, x
D3A Val: 73 destroyed 9 Q  T% e  D; d- R" _- j9 A; R
D4Y Judy: 72 destroyed 3 Q3 H- t3 e1 ]3 a
B5N Kate: 106 destroyed ; H8 \; \2 ]2 ^7 {* `. F& X4 D( d
B6N Jill: 40 destroyed . Q3 ~' H0 H! H  k
  
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: B5 w! M0 H. V, e  q' a  {2 [F6F Hellcat: 27 destroyed, 10 damaged 9 W5 [: Q; O# p6 p% ^
Corsair IV: 1 damaged 2 [, ^$ ~6 z+ g8 L
  
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$ O  D7 j3 O! |, z; g. gCVL Cabot 0 ?5 f. ~$ o! y! S6 ?$ w$ B1 N
CV Illustrious, Bomb hits 1 3 _6 c8 \( V8 Y
CV Formidable
  a, A# U2 h; k8 f: w' @CVL Langley
8 Y- K: B5 R: c& w' }CLAA San Diego
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5 [) ^) k/ v" c7 H  GAircraft Attacking: " |. A5 _3 s) n. R" M
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
$ ]) U  G7 U4 y% V' F0 s- `3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
6 K6 r$ n9 v/ m- i" \6 m2 {1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
6 O3 S2 g/ i% n2 O! P# C3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
, U& u5 L( d: A1 w0 l3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet % \/ x( L, ~/ h/ M1 t) [- ?7 N
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
' Z: x$ z5 E. E3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
6 q9 W; Y! }$ G  s# S4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet . L/ D  w& h6 b. D0 ^3 ?4 c
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 S2 @, t- c4 m2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet * \) @4 E7 v0 X% z3 ~- z
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
, m/ v( {1 j3 ?' I; l1 t7 L3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet + O+ A3 p. p% ^5 i9 H
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 7 n  `: e) ?# d% Q
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
+ i( g7 @9 v% \! k" o: {* H4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet $ |2 m' M& t% F5 c
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
# a7 o1 N9 U4 Q7 h& n9 ~9 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet ' i% e0 c' k4 l: u* y
3 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
+ ^& u  `2 q3 X  j7 O* l8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet ) u' k; _% G' X, \3 c* T7 H
6 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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) `1 W8 t& P9 @6 X: JJapanese aircraft
- |7 A( `* b5 v1 n" H; PA6M5 Zeke x 6 2 X0 b- r+ T) q6 ?5 `
D4Y Judy x 27 ; e5 c4 I! V" i0 c
A6M3a Zero x 9
' j9 m  |+ u9 \3 lB5N Kate x 18 " }/ Q& h5 X% E8 H$ o
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Allied aircraft
, y$ q& L/ Q; @F6F Hellcat x 120
3 K2 y4 n& K* M4 n0 XCorsair IV x 24 2 Y' s- g1 ?+ E; I- f
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Japanese aircraft losses & `' K5 N  E! y3 \. _' V6 p
A6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed ' {- g- X1 N" j7 C- r
D4Y Judy: 20 destroyed 6 R2 B% O! |' i6 s- ~
A6M3a Zero: 7 destroyed * x$ O  V0 }6 K: x  O5 q, S* {8 K
B5N Kate: 17 destroyed 1 ^; c9 }3 v  p4 K$ z1 _9 Q, Z& x
  
  \9 Y' P9 f3 |2 NAllied aircraft losses # ]8 M1 S& t- v  ]) t
F6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged , z8 S+ O  R8 k# a. t
  
* G' M% }$ [: q) t* o0 B$ bAllied Ships + _- r+ L2 a2 c
CV Intrepid, Bomb hits 1
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Aircraft Attacking:
: u& s" t0 y4 H5 @# g% Y2 T1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
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. Y, h; v, S% @! R1 MDay Air attack on TF at 14,79 / o9 f# I: g& s0 _8 D" R* ?
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Japanese aircraft
9 [; K; z$ p8 C. q9 Q# ~2 _; FA6M5 Zeke x 9   l3 I$ d$ y: Q& E
D3A Val x 9 7 u; c1 r; E* U$ E, _1 ^7 c: T. W
D4Y Judy x 27 3 [/ |( `) D- P5 v, f5 o: c7 ^. N$ \
B5N Kate x 18
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Allied aircraft 3 l' ]; I" \* B$ K) p. m# T
F6F Hellcat x 115
; {- ?- W8 g3 yCorsair IV x 24 & E5 U" H" n& l( X3 D
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Japanese aircraft losses ! O$ @2 W" y6 I2 `
A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed 4 \: u& N4 E8 B; |, z, q
D3A Val: 9 destroyed 7 S1 k5 j; K9 {
D4Y Judy: 21 destroyed   c7 J4 |: f; C! ~' O
B5N Kate: 10 destroyed ) q/ Z8 C7 T2 }% N% M
  
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F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed / |4 J: j& |% F5 y! |
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Allied Ships
6 I3 K& A0 j0 ~* V6 R" ~CV Bunker Hill, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
$ |/ u2 [* M4 C6 x2 F) J. z* iDD Sampson, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
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# Q, u. Y% I0 D  N. \4 mAircraft Attacking:
; o$ d! f0 L& a1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet 6 Q+ Y2 j# u' N9 U
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet + w6 Q0 y) {4 Y/ t2 w
5 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet 3 f# u# E0 L7 P( N9 @
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6 R! r; J+ L% F0 F4 Y4 X& sDay Air attack on TF at 14,79
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Japanese aircraft ' Y( o  b/ _& [$ ~) l6 N. u
G4M1 Betty x 6 ( ^( C+ y" J! f' J7 F( m. Y
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Allied aircraft ; o( o/ w6 b2 T. z
F6F Hellcat x 98
: E6 p5 a3 x# G  T% g- f) l: R, y3 y" w- pCorsair IV x 23
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Japanese aircraft losses
: d! m, d& ]1 o, s2 ?G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed - M  E, V3 @4 r- Q# c+ B
  
) I5 g5 [4 ]  A" C/ m5 e' }" `2 t* aAllied aircraft losses
- j+ X7 I& t5 V) G7 yF6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
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0 W8 j! n) o* B. @* r% xDay Air attack on TF at 14,79
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Japanese aircraft $ _6 ?/ ^6 m2 R4 T) [. K/ O0 j* g
G4M1 Betty x 3
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" ]& S1 C! d9 |7 G# ?8 eAllied aircraft
' E) a, q& N0 u8 ?5 @% M% m: `F6F Hellcat x 98
  S" l$ e) ^1 D, D9 SCorsair IV x 23
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Japanese aircraft losses
+ ^4 V* w$ I; X) e1 l; pG4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
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: f& M% ?) s" bDay Air attack on TF at 14,79
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% h/ [0 ^& _' eJapanese aircraft 9 [' K$ g# W) E5 m% ?
A6M5 Zeke x 50 " q' g8 a! }6 A$ ~
D3A Val x 15
+ f1 ^9 ], A- }) ZD4Y Judy x 15 ! t4 [! z9 Z' K* i$ q* `& P
A6M3a Zero x 6 $ b8 I8 z2 \6 ?$ s
B5N Kate x 17 ( V9 H1 ~( X3 I  b2 d8 {+ Q  Q
B6N Jill x 2
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Allied aircraft " @5 q+ N0 a  z$ S1 t$ Q3 a9 C1 X
F6F Hellcat x 98 6 F, c0 u- ~! _+ [" s
Corsair IV x 23
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5 g; t& n- O0 D% f0 v0 z* XJapanese aircraft losses - Q# T4 W% W' X. N
A6M5 Zeke: 50 destroyed : w& ?2 f6 I8 V- G6 m/ A
D3A Val: 12 destroyed
* }3 Z, y: p3 _  C( aD4Y Judy: 9 destroyed
0 a5 Q( ^. \& A2 I6 m" _1 UA6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed
7 y/ ]% b0 N( F) m4 ?B5N Kate: 16 destroyed 2 y- \, Z3 `0 c3 @) V( t6 d
B6N Jill: 2 destroyed
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! ^; F# o  x# H/ c& eAllied aircraft losses
4 @& X3 {3 B$ b* _) b2 C; d* h3 fF6F Hellcat: 15 destroyed, 9 damaged # I7 \& v5 y% y
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed 1 t' O0 U2 V4 m
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Allied Ships
' e+ m. }0 C( wCV Formidable ) ?0 p( Q0 c" F( s
CV Illustrious ) f2 C6 |* u' P9 N$ E( H  R  V
CVL Cabot
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Aircraft Attacking: 2 t  G: m" h% ]" H
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 1 j, V1 k7 x6 \1 N3 n- ~
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet   C3 d! V: Q% W. K: h" \
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet  
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* p( }- v: R9 e[ 本帖最后由 wildcat 于 2006-12-7 11:07 编辑 ]
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-6 18:23 发表3 [5 V& b2 q% o/ z/ v7 u+ v
PzB vs wobbly的我一直有看,他的战报既详细又配图,sneer的无图,不知道哪个位置说打下印度、中国和珍珠港,不过现在盟军已反攻到印度的詹谢谱儿了
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. J9 i) s% M& o7 i- z , 看太多戰報,  可能記錯了. 應該是Sneer 另一個戰報吧. 原諒我
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-7 11:10 发表# N7 g% P9 [8 @- \

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! j# K. W* }$ X6 J. A这个例子里日方护航机数量太少了,面对接近200架F6F能突防就不错了
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80+ exp 的 Zero 52 型 vs 60+ exp F6F 打成這樣. 真像獵火雞
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