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官網上 PZB 的對戰最慘烈.- S5 [* @; F' F0 m) ~7 ]
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日本玩家進展最好的Sneer  & Raverdave 的對戰, 此公打下中國 + 印度 外加 珍珠港.
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) v! A5 l& g( A' E" H$ z[ 本帖最后由 wildcat 于 2006-12-6 17:45 编辑 ]
原帖由 浆糊 于 2006-12-6 17:37 发表$ P# L* _$ B1 m2 E
楼上的推荐几个精彩战报的链接吧,我等去拜读一下
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4 `) l4 F7 e" w7 u8 xhttp://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=988842 (sneer vs Raver)
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  N2 c2 o# O+ @! r& a/ y  thttp://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=679803 (PzB vs wobbly)
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http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=997347 (Andy vs PzB)
原帖由 逍遥 于 2006-12-6 19:14 发表
' c1 K+ ^0 `. a5 A- zPzB的战报里面有几个很奇怪的地方。
+ f1 L9 |9 l, v9 p& J! `8 M他的KB似乎损失很重,而美军的航母好像没有受到太大的杀伤。
' k% V5 V) ~7 h) N( v( f5 }还有一个,他提到美军的BB只剩了10艘左右,这个也不知道具体的情况。/ Q" K2 @- K' o" q$ p/ B

' s, Y; S2 {7 U, R. ~战报太长了,找不到战斗的详细情况。 ...
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' e: S3 M! G4 i% G目前 PzB 跟  Sneer 都遇到相同的問題. 就是 43 年後 A2A 不管日方經驗&機數佔優勢,在面對 F6F + F4U 的 CAP 下, 損失非常慘重1 I4 ]$ H1 E' ~: S, J" M* A8 {1 C
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這在CV 對戰中, 對日方不利. H0 f. {& Y8 N: N! m0 R3 I0 m

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/26/43 8 A9 R. ?" a; P0 }/ @  H4 V9 w
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TF 1162 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84)
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Allied Ships ! V6 x+ v( I: I2 H& ^
MSW Cromer   F: b4 h  s  N- [9 l' ]
MSW Goulburn   D# q/ z$ U* C$ l
  
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: D1 d4 h/ g# mASW attack at 37,69
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1 G5 j1 s) j) g. g; AJapanese Ships , r  K7 ^2 @2 Z. ?( `5 L
PC Ch 22 1 b/ B1 @! j  U1 x2 N
PC Ch 20 % y. [( R3 k9 G: v
PG Taiko Maru ( V. D) _, a- }
PG Shosei Maru 4 s; {  t6 u. \+ W; k/ ~, i
PG Seiko Maru
9 D' G( ~8 l9 B& m8 E' ePG Keiko Maru 5 `# Y1 q0 Z, \0 v; Z4 {
PG Aso Maru
1 o. @. N* V5 R% ^PG Tamo Maru #7 ! v1 N- _9 f2 x# j: h& h! v
  
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SS O23
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6 H9 Z5 M5 _# D! g, C2 e. dDay Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78 ! t' R, ^3 g3 J- |3 W8 ~% D
  
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# M7 p! W1 C7 U$ a0 q& ^- p8 IAllied aircraft   D( Y6 I( i6 o# e6 T( F1 P
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3
3 M: {& p: R1 A  dF-5A Lightning x 2 ( H0 I! b1 I' j# w
B-25J Mitchell x 135
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Allied aircraft losses
0 x/ ^6 y2 A6 k% ]0 u! x$ EB-25J Mitchell: 9 damaged % N! s' ~, l0 b" S
  
$ t8 D$ V9 u! p1 b" zJapanese ground losses: " H( w6 r% K, B! G! f) p1 Z  f
163 casualties reported
3 e4 ?, D1 a" Z) a4 vGuns lost 1 6 ^" x- [. D( Z! z5 h  D  H6 |
  
1 k. G6 n% r5 n& m8 M4 F5 kAirbase hits 6 ! U7 d/ c: N0 y
Airbase supply hits 3 . ]* j9 x8 V2 R1 J
Runway hits 126 4 o+ i4 X3 M8 T# K
  
5 _: N8 n2 S% u8 r1 [" L$ C+ FAircraft Attacking: ) _' T0 x# ^. @" Q7 b
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet / D5 J0 H2 J# D1 W0 V
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
+ a) U  R1 t' a3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ' Z; h% n1 ~4 x  _& h
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 1 z, Q2 R6 r1 l, [& d+ R8 n4 ^
16 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet - T4 v8 |: ]6 \! Q" \
24 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ; l% T5 |3 g0 X9 ?
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
+ O+ ^9 P: ~, R- ?; N; d4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
9 i+ c( P# ]  i3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
  X" K* {& m9 c# p10 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 3 O9 e+ W: @# [* J+ @3 |& D
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
5 b# H$ l% z2 o+ l3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
, p2 p5 j+ ?" F: H  h& y2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet , u$ x. H6 X1 ~( @0 b9 @) P" z
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
( n2 Y+ Z6 r! X0 U0 D. v: \, d4 U6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
# ^( [' L: `" S2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
2 o2 C' c3 [" L4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ) Z3 x6 J/ @$ _& T& A5 j
5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 3 l. c% Y7 o4 `5 ^
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ( R7 g5 ~/ Z( g2 E1 A. u( D- Z
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
6 ^6 }& T' X* J3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet $ ]2 b& [* q$ n' ?! I
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ( j8 n6 N' r9 y6 M& w0 t( \( }
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Day Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53
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  T& r6 Y  X5 {! Z+ F4 I0 JJapanese aircraft
! Z, p/ N# s! A# ND3A Val x 54
' D' B+ z, p% u1 Z! m( oA6M5c Zeke x 47 ; R& G* K3 F( J4 i% R/ O" R
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No Japanese losses " O7 O- X2 t9 Z
  
; [) d5 w/ [( j1 E- S/ SRunway hits 30
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: o8 \) o1 w8 O) [Aircraft Attacking:
( j4 M; N! k5 n  t1 ?27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
5 x" E: |- @( v27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
% d5 ]) [4 T* s' E47 x A6M5c Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
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" H6 U2 [4 n8 g. o/ [7 h( UDay Air attack on TF at 14,79
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Japanese aircraft : c9 }' u- V* A. ?
A6M5 Zeke x 84 9 j: r+ I, F# p% X
D3A Val x 98
" ^( U2 J8 K' X. n3 ^* N/ M  \( W9 bD4Y Judy x 95 1 g  C  l) c! i. A
B5N Kate x 129 ) Z9 Y( Q6 g/ F2 g4 U
B6N Jill x 47
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Allied aircraft % Y. X* u4 [# b1 p
F6F Hellcat x 147
, p5 S" r4 t) c  k/ ICorsair IV x 24 ( `0 ?) d: A) v1 j
  
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A6M5 Zeke: 84 destroyed
4 V, u! ^, H% G! ?D3A Val: 73 destroyed 9 R' g- @6 {. B1 u5 r$ N1 _+ N/ F
D4Y Judy: 72 destroyed
6 U" a1 _) I# N' ?6 j5 Q% Z* DB5N Kate: 106 destroyed & v) J$ X# W  A; Y+ j* t) R& f& r
B6N Jill: 40 destroyed " x) p9 P, t" k+ ]/ o" J8 L  Z
  
5 e2 G% p' |6 O2 b/ b8 u0 @' fAllied aircraft losses
; }4 {7 x4 O* O5 i. zF6F Hellcat: 27 destroyed, 10 damaged 4 N1 g5 h; x$ w2 v0 X  n* ]
Corsair IV: 1 damaged
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Allied Ships
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CV Illustrious, Bomb hits 1 8 `9 B1 ?* E/ M$ {% |* B, j
CV Formidable
! {# D  M, |9 E9 y/ d0 p8 p0 t7 r# _CVL Langley
! a6 K/ Y8 k( \# }& ]1 V/ K) dCLAA San Diego
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Aircraft Attacking:
  U5 R3 T. y* ~! E, g4 P5 G5 S1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
0 b0 e, a" y8 U9 w3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
. B* d7 n+ ]4 O) a, d1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 1 W0 n- t. U2 w4 V4 ^. }1 p7 A/ F
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet # G" V9 m9 Y* A/ s7 c/ k
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet $ M) u* f2 ^5 |8 M  J, b
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet 7 h8 O' ?1 O. e! X5 e
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 8 e$ t) c" k8 a3 C6 |9 {/ G
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet ; B( h- j2 \8 A# W- U
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet # l  m, p( h) }4 }& z2 u" G
2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet - v. U4 `) A$ N* p" C
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet 5 ~! L9 Q$ S- M# u) X4 y" y9 E
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
6 i- D8 {! M8 E' }$ E5 b1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
) A. D* _% D; h4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet ' C9 Q  P! }) o) ^/ d
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet , @9 A5 m8 s1 s8 Z; k3 o3 |
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet & d7 \/ x% w/ |) w0 a' J# k
9 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet ' d, ~, L: N- g
3 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
! z6 Y& x  i$ ?" O$ _7 {, g5 Q8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
% f. T7 A- r# M" ?+ g5 H6 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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3 `$ b% V1 n! C0 _0 `Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 8 l' ]4 z* g; |' m% K' R
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Japanese aircraft ) S. f. U, v$ H4 l$ k: d- Y
A6M5 Zeke x 6
* x; G3 x3 H- g2 P: E2 C) uD4Y Judy x 27
! _) D; L+ i7 d0 H! H7 E7 T- hA6M3a Zero x 9
' u0 w2 a# p  {0 n1 N4 p) DB5N Kate x 18 ! \, \: o; \( O6 v
  
0 E1 d; R5 b( D5 p; u4 i, K4 F) h+ xAllied aircraft
" A/ C% R; J$ ]4 r" x% _( L/ O4 RF6F Hellcat x 120
. H( Y# @' Q% B/ g5 LCorsair IV x 24 ) _( [0 m$ j6 L% W# L% y
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Japanese aircraft losses 2 j: d1 E3 y/ P) O
A6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed
- {+ S- t, c2 Y* Z" v$ pD4Y Judy: 20 destroyed 3 O5 ]! j7 D2 Z. s4 E) _
A6M3a Zero: 7 destroyed
* T9 A' @$ s* V) VB5N Kate: 17 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses & B$ w4 b4 r% H3 L6 S" _; b4 Q
F6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
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, {* E, R& U4 t: sAllied Ships 9 y, T. m3 k1 t$ o
CV Intrepid, Bomb hits 1 + a, T! _" O) E& e5 M. Z! S
  
. {, x$ o3 t8 \( gAircraft Attacking:
8 G9 u  i- d) p) v, J1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 ( F; t/ C- n2 m: H' U  i
  
% R5 ^& L1 \) I. @Japanese aircraft 6 T; v3 _+ I! M" b6 A
A6M5 Zeke x 9 . S+ ^! F8 J: r" L0 p
D3A Val x 9
" z* ~7 `. ^. U% OD4Y Judy x 27
( C0 B# v0 L& _' o. K# bB5N Kate x 18 - W/ o- Z) c" ?- n9 c
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Allied aircraft . x; g/ |$ k" p8 P9 r9 _/ _; W! _
F6F Hellcat x 115
4 [7 w+ c8 q, qCorsair IV x 24
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Japanese aircraft losses
# I# o4 o0 X6 W6 P" W/ T7 AA6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed
. \) h: n/ g* H  t2 b  kD3A Val: 9 destroyed 9 N- l- a2 E: j
D4Y Judy: 21 destroyed # r5 J+ X% V2 W. q) I
B5N Kate: 10 destroyed " E+ w9 y- o/ H6 `' N
  
2 c6 J; l& L9 H/ z% G( F! A$ @Allied aircraft losses ( N+ K0 W+ `" x2 o6 Z4 T% l  e
F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed 1 f; u* R* r$ G2 b) }* ]. `3 ]
  
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CV Bunker Hill, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
  S4 v7 w5 b, ]- V# w. {DD Sampson, Bomb hits 2,  on fire 6 J) e: N' \' s% p! ~
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Aircraft Attacking:
8 K2 ?) d$ n! x9 T1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
3 t* C5 N3 d% B4 P/ k8 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 5 v, x% G2 o+ |9 Z, \
5 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet 8 U5 n  e% y2 {: t0 [9 F
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 3 b$ b& J7 a; }! e5 r2 U
  
/ A9 b7 t) }% t) oJapanese aircraft $ V; w5 d; `; T- R- J
G4M1 Betty x 6
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. {# g# E* C. a) X) \0 yAllied aircraft
2 M- C1 D  X* j$ j7 j4 lF6F Hellcat x 98
3 o& C+ I) Z: t8 @" vCorsair IV x 23
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Japanese aircraft losses 5 w: I3 f. x9 c3 u1 b. S$ r
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
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( g; ?0 k: @$ z  W, {6 `8 FAllied aircraft losses
. s7 U# h# ?- G# G2 CF6F Hellcat: 1 damaged   H6 O: p2 w4 y# Z
  
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* n6 [+ c6 }' C9 S5 W; _2 K8 @" dDay Air attack on TF at 14,79
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Japanese aircraft $ |- x3 P* N9 M" I" y
G4M1 Betty x 3
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Allied aircraft 7 q: g  B9 ~8 h+ t
F6F Hellcat x 98 * C# ~- G8 Q( Y' f, F$ W) I% {
Corsair IV x 23 * z" ~9 d* c7 x, g; S5 O- Y3 T
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Japanese aircraft losses + E/ k( {' S- g2 ~
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed ( Y: I4 ^6 M9 m8 {! s: n: ?  x
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 9 T; m0 L; ]9 n) Q  s/ C
  
% y! F2 t* y2 `/ @Japanese aircraft
0 f3 k* `0 o0 `1 B: aA6M5 Zeke x 50
! r+ T  W: `' m# Z8 b/ tD3A Val x 15 0 O- j0 h! T; R
D4Y Judy x 15
- t! g3 r& \( }- }A6M3a Zero x 6
& d5 F' e9 b3 m! G) _B5N Kate x 17 " v9 B6 B3 c" E0 D( X
B6N Jill x 2 # m5 m% H* v# R4 P
  
8 o0 j% ~3 p/ T1 BAllied aircraft 9 g9 {8 Z2 Z; H5 t
F6F Hellcat x 98 6 x% i7 X9 M3 w! p
Corsair IV x 23
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- v' P3 p5 ]5 E+ H" C% r0 Z/ wJapanese aircraft losses . ?' g2 n: w9 W" m/ c5 ~
A6M5 Zeke: 50 destroyed 2 q3 ?( I/ J3 C1 {9 L- d
D3A Val: 12 destroyed
) p5 W% s. L! h: yD4Y Judy: 9 destroyed 5 l& {  W6 x/ v2 w% o9 `5 t
A6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed . v' w' b0 a6 R+ D3 b
B5N Kate: 16 destroyed 1 l& J+ J! |( V5 ^3 r
B6N Jill: 2 destroyed , P9 x, `& a$ S0 |: v% D0 D
  
5 ?6 q' P4 C3 ^! c/ u8 |7 P' UAllied aircraft losses
- Z) I) d$ t" h& Y# w: P$ M9 }F6F Hellcat: 15 destroyed, 9 damaged
& q  {2 c, z1 g; G9 CCorsair IV: 1 destroyed
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1 d; z& f* W3 P- l5 h! Y9 q/ D, T* dAllied Ships $ R: C: T: {# y: L: t7 A1 x
CV Formidable 0 a3 F6 M; R' F6 n+ y9 Y
CV Illustrious , c' j& ]5 y% |8 ^1 V, M: A
CVL Cabot
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Aircraft Attacking: % T7 U* C* L' _+ X+ N+ J# z  {
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
: Y+ o7 |7 c# s- k& S/ |1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 3 J2 y* h- Q% e! h% O
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet  
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原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-6 18:23 发表, w; B& p6 M% I
PzB vs wobbly的我一直有看,他的战报既详细又配图,sneer的无图,不知道哪个位置说打下印度、中国和珍珠港,不过现在盟军已反攻到印度的詹谢谱儿了
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: `+ Q. r8 S7 r$ G4 e , 看太多戰報,  可能記錯了. 應該是Sneer 另一個戰報吧. 原諒我
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-7 11:10 发表
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! H7 `4 V; ?' e2 S  L这个例子里日方护航机数量太少了,面对接近200架F6F能突防就不错了
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80+ exp 的 Zero 52 型 vs 60+ exp F6F 打成這樣. 真像獵火雞
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