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官網上 PZB 的對戰最慘烈.8 T+ ], m+ y3 c# v* ^) Z

/ |4 b2 A* J, M% v# q5 E' c日本玩家進展最好的Sneer  & Raverdave 的對戰, 此公打下中國 + 印度 外加 珍珠港.7 G* f( U; J  B
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[ 本帖最后由 wildcat 于 2006-12-6 17:45 编辑 ]
原帖由 浆糊 于 2006-12-6 17:37 发表
2 n( V3 V! P. S8 J2 x6 s7 S; T3 r楼上的推荐几个精彩战报的链接吧,我等去拜读一下
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http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=988842 (sneer vs Raver)9 J( x, k3 p. e. H5 N* T

0 j' ^, x6 |0 z3 d. D" B2 {" i, yhttp://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=679803 (PzB vs wobbly)
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http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=997347 (Andy vs PzB)
原帖由 逍遥 于 2006-12-6 19:14 发表: M  l) R- A- i
PzB的战报里面有几个很奇怪的地方。
* O' w% ~+ A3 {, O" L他的KB似乎损失很重,而美军的航母好像没有受到太大的杀伤。
( ?! v* y4 T& [" _0 ^2 L: n# A0 r$ |. L还有一个,他提到美军的BB只剩了10艘左右,这个也不知道具体的情况。
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战报太长了,找不到战斗的详细情况。 ...
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目前 PzB 跟  Sneer 都遇到相同的問題. 就是 43 年後 A2A 不管日方經驗&機數佔優勢,在面對 F6F + F4U 的 CAP 下, 損失非常慘重7 ]0 ^# q, N  [" I! d8 C& r

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/26/43 : b4 n# b6 C9 y3 P( x) z

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# J, F% d. I( N9 a  z4 RTF 1162 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84)
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Allied Ships 4 d+ f" T2 c2 x: N" v: S/ P- G3 e. S
MSW Cromer , h$ c3 T7 W2 T# H5 ]" X
MSW Goulburn 1 g" l3 I- J9 {# Q4 }) s
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* M3 ^0 Y9 L# ?0 V# C0 m: C4 a! Y& qASW attack at 37,69 " U! S+ d7 k( t2 a: M$ A; ?# F# Q
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Japanese Ships ) p+ H6 B+ o: Y) c( Q2 x( k
PC Ch 22 & Q8 a  l; K" n% a
PC Ch 20 6 m7 K0 V4 D, |6 F1 i# s% X
PG Taiko Maru % @' a/ z# H( ]# X& C
PG Shosei Maru 5 {3 Q5 u  E& ?
PG Seiko Maru " N' {" k! [3 x  u5 e( o: c
PG Keiko Maru
& |" k; Q' m- b% wPG Aso Maru
4 e+ l6 v& X# o' J' a+ tPG Tamo Maru #7
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8 I3 b( W1 k( B& n3 V& U0 kAllied Ships
5 |+ z; [& ], m7 i! \7 x$ WSS O23
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* `+ n* J/ j' R2 i1 t$ z( L8 X0 IDay Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78 + u1 @: i; ^$ V
  
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Allied aircraft ) H7 G8 Y7 D$ n2 W9 q2 k
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 3
/ c$ U' e) u0 d" ^' o! z, rF-5A Lightning x 2
! G4 c, z6 v+ d3 ]: }B-25J Mitchell x 135 " B! A0 e1 X3 c
  
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9 R, P: Y% B0 @: d; hAllied aircraft losses
& c! h2 @" h& J9 c- n0 a5 HB-25J Mitchell: 9 damaged
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1 B  a- O9 [* l! @% b2 v1 s1 qJapanese ground losses:
, b7 Z" k: ^. Z$ c8 V! ]163 casualties reported
" r" u! S" j1 G" G$ W2 h1 x7 R& FGuns lost 1 6 M) R. g' [3 Y1 t, v
  
+ T8 J% e: n# a7 {2 AAirbase hits 6
- m7 \# T- I/ WAirbase supply hits 3
# g6 J0 E- ^" X; x. q( n7 v5 kRunway hits 126 ; ]& ?/ I9 T- X. m- w6 g: ^5 I# I/ Z
  
5 R5 _- P5 E# |" w7 j$ g) HAircraft Attacking:
, Y+ d/ Z, X- S0 y$ ~/ Y6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
( F( o$ Q6 ]' n) e8 J4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet / }; L8 \$ o' R; {* K
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
* n  D$ G- P; {& I& e3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 1 _7 O! {" a$ S0 h* V% C
16 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
$ k' z/ q; k9 V24 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
+ P  p% l* k+ w7 M4 Q6 Z13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
$ o6 z# M( Q4 Z* u  z& I4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 9 }) a5 w4 a8 t, ]  Y8 r0 R
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
% j* E! I1 t8 g9 m# m; v10 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet / |( R% \- e7 X# W
13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 6 l) O/ ], z9 \2 a6 P+ v7 ^0 q
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet * y6 X3 f2 f# z- h0 r
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 8 J/ H1 s+ a2 Q- o, @+ Y0 H
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
- f! \5 z# ?9 p- ~% ~3 t6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
) U: _( t5 S7 Y3 H7 K2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ( S% n2 i# r9 }! h
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet + [8 }. F1 \  O4 L/ ?3 U& h
5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet - f7 M* e, g% p- r' p+ h
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
& @1 _& w' I( k$ ~3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet " z! W6 }5 U7 w( m* j
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ; Z6 m; @6 F9 u
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53
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Japanese aircraft / w+ q5 m* s9 L, u+ I
D3A Val x 54 $ N6 i7 w: Z' o
A6M5c Zeke x 47
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4 ~% ~, \* B% j$ g: M: {1 VNo Japanese losses
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  b. U- c8 U- E! H# E( y& URunway hits 30 ) e* J5 B" n7 ~2 R  T
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Aircraft Attacking:
! |& t! d# S( H' X# u& k5 C6 h, }27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet % e) V3 t0 \+ b; B
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
' `8 _! S. p& W/ r' p47 x A6M5c Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 $ e% p% D/ B2 i2 }4 r, i; s% w, I
  
" l9 w. ^) J* }! p1 i( dJapanese aircraft
2 G* i" t# Y8 JA6M5 Zeke x 84
6 @6 N. B) ?% kD3A Val x 98 2 |: b+ F" P. Y* ?/ X
D4Y Judy x 95
  I& p1 H1 G  d* N4 g1 dB5N Kate x 129 6 ^  i  w3 I. @6 z
B6N Jill x 47 & a3 ?$ @  C- J" r* U
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Allied aircraft + B5 |) W! o6 D% L7 N' |: L: A7 S
F6F Hellcat x 147
, Z% E5 C( L$ t5 Z- u3 S3 L9 pCorsair IV x 24 8 q4 F- E5 v& o6 Q
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Japanese aircraft losses 3 [6 A% K4 c) x+ Q! U1 d
A6M5 Zeke: 84 destroyed
# v! d5 S% T3 m/ WD3A Val: 73 destroyed
* G0 {& |3 ?' H: c4 g" X: vD4Y Judy: 72 destroyed
. o( s- Y! G9 zB5N Kate: 106 destroyed   L* @- X; {! D8 N, K
B6N Jill: 40 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses , T: E- Y2 w8 h
F6F Hellcat: 27 destroyed, 10 damaged
- a' q$ l4 r% V: k" Q! \9 kCorsair IV: 1 damaged
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0 w! e1 o4 ]7 a( v' CAllied Ships
' m! ~( ]6 ~# W+ T  yCVL Cabot 9 u: x- F4 J5 [& Z6 j0 i; ]/ j
CV Illustrious, Bomb hits 1 ! z: }, ~& Q0 ~' o2 s
CV Formidable
0 n# s  G2 y( {CVL Langley
$ p% t/ r9 C& B. N  T( w+ vCLAA San Diego 4 c" p' r7 q+ h4 w0 Z6 ^$ @4 V
  
( Q; H# e4 U+ s, h. U& b( A, AAircraft Attacking:
$ v3 z- N# A1 x& x1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
& A7 ^1 _) b6 S! q$ y8 b3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet 0 \% Q0 h8 v! p/ W$ i/ I0 {
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet ) l( f8 S1 a; L2 b: e5 u
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
" j! ~. a; {: h9 N+ W0 N& K3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
  X- N& O( v4 s. W* S1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
$ r1 _1 b% x$ N' U% ~3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet , ^( W% r6 ~" o* V
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 6 w7 O) f; G# }+ e; y, H% ]. C. }
1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
. J7 I8 K* U" b6 H0 j$ \2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet ) I4 n2 i, q2 _6 ]4 a  _. b
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
8 D8 H+ p4 ]: q  p- g3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
9 ]+ S) }8 h* Q% F  z5 h1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 8 m7 f  [- `, }2 q. {) z
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 7 x/ O* Q4 |: r
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
2 Q$ f, h- D% i- \$ v& B6 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet ; w) }2 q4 g/ w# O$ _0 W
9 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
" N; b0 Q  `2 S6 ?- i+ Z3 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
! g: v2 I4 a: m+ O) \, R2 H8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 A/ [8 q) i% E' p' ~" f6 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet 7 P+ X, J" K7 f1 z# w9 R$ N# q" y
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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; z) G/ _* @( B+ L" I8 p  J4 |9 ~$ ?Japanese aircraft 9 Q: V8 W' U8 e% N
A6M5 Zeke x 6   u: U, q& T- b$ w
D4Y Judy x 27
/ e; L% ]1 ~8 y4 EA6M3a Zero x 9 ! S5 ?1 u4 D8 [* l/ q) R
B5N Kate x 18 2 }9 W. Y) a$ {
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Allied aircraft
# O. Q# \5 `9 ~& D4 KF6F Hellcat x 120
' }- w/ O% y0 `+ Z4 ^Corsair IV x 24 : d/ e. q+ f4 f
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Japanese aircraft losses
+ b# d2 J1 g+ f1 ^) xA6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed
: X& w/ c6 u1 E! F7 @D4Y Judy: 20 destroyed
! b2 |+ I0 n$ t1 iA6M3a Zero: 7 destroyed 1 S( j0 W. ?( x6 ^) i% f; S% [
B5N Kate: 17 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses % I5 Q3 ?3 ?( I* z
F6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
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. Z0 l2 T/ F# u5 p6 Q  mAllied Ships
( \1 I! E4 I+ m2 j- p) J5 ICV Intrepid, Bomb hits 1 + `! I# e) V' ?% _
  
7 }  p4 }8 V( [8 u% ^- ]Aircraft Attacking:
4 Y+ {1 C; N+ f! u8 b/ }# G) H1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 0 E& N- Z9 p1 g+ E, Y. C$ B
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79 + |3 K; G" `" _0 G* R
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Japanese aircraft ( v9 n9 g( c2 r% g% Y+ x, L
A6M5 Zeke x 9 ( ~* p- N' b4 \
D3A Val x 9
+ J# l, H& s/ R/ ~( SD4Y Judy x 27
8 }: e, e% d2 M1 lB5N Kate x 18
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' @3 t+ d, s( V  s3 V+ \) P8 NAllied aircraft
1 z1 P' S9 i. _# }- h+ [* XF6F Hellcat x 115 8 R  o- w* Q$ t8 x2 r  \
Corsair IV x 24 6 M% y2 o1 u9 O( n
  
* K* B  W6 f2 k$ Q! W6 lJapanese aircraft losses
$ b5 }' V% C, d. kA6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed - X6 B- R0 ]! h) V
D3A Val: 9 destroyed
) s5 ^8 `# p( J5 _D4Y Judy: 21 destroyed
6 x1 l, g! p! J7 k% tB5N Kate: 10 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses " u: o5 P& f4 t& X
F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed
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Allied Ships % X, |. O: d* X' G
CV Bunker Hill, Bomb hits 1,  on fire 4 `) ?3 B4 A, Y' A  g) k% M4 a
DD Sampson, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
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Aircraft Attacking:
& B$ g. ?( q# u8 K: {1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
; J) z( g- [/ K, k, _4 U8 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 3 ?. i$ O* m0 d9 x% g! }% }
5 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet 7 l: r0 ?. r+ x, S) z: X
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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Japanese aircraft . I; g( h" ~. g
G4M1 Betty x 6 6 N! [, V5 |2 H5 H% D; H
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Allied aircraft
+ @! L1 S% N, L- h2 @+ A' ~F6F Hellcat x 98 $ n3 I5 ^/ M# p1 f
Corsair IV x 23 . M$ E, N/ G& F
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Japanese aircraft losses
5 Y% B& O# C  AG4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed 9 B' \  Q; U# l( h% h  l
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Allied aircraft losses
; K. C6 n' X- r. Z4 |0 rF6F Hellcat: 1 damaged
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) w' C/ n: j" W: q" T, e- y3 SDay Air attack on TF at 14,79 3 O6 H  A* R5 H+ t
  
3 V# u" X0 q+ S: {, jJapanese aircraft
- s" n. a, ^: T& f3 t5 M& {G4M1 Betty x 3
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Allied aircraft . X3 @) s* j5 e1 K6 L, x
F6F Hellcat x 98 5 r3 D1 k' Q4 g
Corsair IV x 23 6 e7 A; f1 ?* V; g6 i* _
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Japanese aircraft losses ) ^+ v+ |  Y2 d" S" N# y9 l! Q
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed ' q- W' t& R6 x/ C* i; y- a8 ]
  
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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Japanese aircraft 4 y  H! P) D/ Q2 D3 i
A6M5 Zeke x 50
9 v. P  K; D3 @3 Y2 ?; RD3A Val x 15
: n8 g- D7 j$ x2 o% fD4Y Judy x 15 0 b, H2 c: Y( ]/ Z! L& B3 c
A6M3a Zero x 6
# z4 F; x3 M+ j0 C3 o! V$ `B5N Kate x 17
6 u2 Y2 v, J( c6 X7 U/ [( q) c) [B6N Jill x 2
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  Y% @6 ~9 \" p8 t9 w) C6 DAllied aircraft
$ A) _' u% H2 G5 \  m" w/ [1 xF6F Hellcat x 98 4 q( i; v* q% r3 L# Q! Z
Corsair IV x 23
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Japanese aircraft losses . g2 M, y: i! M" O  g
A6M5 Zeke: 50 destroyed 4 n$ N) H* a; \! ^: K. A$ n! c2 ]! m
D3A Val: 12 destroyed
. s+ G5 m2 _& E/ `* s: f; ]D4Y Judy: 9 destroyed . p/ o- G* L5 n  V' T4 n$ Y
A6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed
+ f- F4 J& A, t; o. V# c% mB5N Kate: 16 destroyed 7 x0 B# Z' {7 {/ p/ e
B6N Jill: 2 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses / h3 H/ d1 L2 @* @# F6 ]0 K
F6F Hellcat: 15 destroyed, 9 damaged 4 n' h" I! r1 b- q0 [
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed 6 G- c( T) B' V+ V1 i
  
4 U5 S, n; @. K- t* z8 hAllied Ships
( O2 Q# Q' F5 h+ _, G7 m' f/ M& ^CV Formidable 6 ^8 ]. T  Q" W" w7 C/ J
CV Illustrious
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. k+ v- o0 F1 R- K& ?Aircraft Attacking: 7 ^( P# i( C" g: j% s+ E; W
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet / H$ f* f1 m4 u; W/ r4 a" n: h
1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 2 w' q0 E1 S' n9 K  K- w# Z6 l( b
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet  
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[ 本帖最后由 wildcat 于 2006-12-7 11:07 编辑 ]
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-6 18:23 发表6 l% x7 E  x- Y
PzB vs wobbly的我一直有看,他的战报既详细又配图,sneer的无图,不知道哪个位置说打下印度、中国和珍珠港,不过现在盟军已反攻到印度的詹谢谱儿了
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. X3 l0 S( r, y" J$ _; s6 g! W; F , 看太多戰報,  可能記錯了. 應該是Sneer 另一個戰報吧. 原諒我
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-7 11:10 发表: |- f+ _5 F- D" y: X& |5 o

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/ U; y8 {  x5 S% H) F* g这个例子里日方护航机数量太少了,面对接近200架F6F能突防就不错了
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80+ exp 的 Zero 52 型 vs 60+ exp F6F 打成這樣. 真像獵火雞
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