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官網上 PZB 的對戰最慘烈.
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6 ^- H5 u/ e9 l日本玩家進展最好的Sneer  & Raverdave 的對戰, 此公打下中國 + 印度 外加 珍珠港.
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[ 本帖最后由 wildcat 于 2006-12-6 17:45 编辑 ]
原帖由 浆糊 于 2006-12-6 17:37 发表
( m$ V+ X& I) W* [楼上的推荐几个精彩战报的链接吧,我等去拜读一下
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http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=988842 (sneer vs Raver)
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+ h! L6 x, J- x5 }2 `( K( q8 vhttp://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=679803 (PzB vs wobbly)
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原帖由 逍遥 于 2006-12-6 19:14 发表/ P) ]0 U" W! N- Z/ {0 m0 |# s9 Z" a
PzB的战报里面有几个很奇怪的地方。
) u$ P2 f) @9 ?% G. M他的KB似乎损失很重,而美军的航母好像没有受到太大的杀伤。
: z( ]+ \+ W$ F+ a0 j/ B- {9 D  P还有一个,他提到美军的BB只剩了10艘左右,这个也不知道具体的情况。
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战报太长了,找不到战斗的详细情况。 ...
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& D5 d6 C& N6 ~. E' f6 P: r目前 PzB 跟  Sneer 都遇到相同的問題. 就是 43 年後 A2A 不管日方經驗&機數佔優勢,在面對 F6F + F4U 的 CAP 下, 損失非常慘重$ ^$ \+ F$ L6 B

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/26/43 9 Q0 s( ~/ B* j# \8 G- b2 s1 U
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( L7 y$ d/ g- UTF 1162 encounters mine field at Darwin (36,84)
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Allied Ships
; `7 B* s" B4 Q! ^$ xMSW Cromer
' M4 K" x, w( @: T! A! FMSW Goulburn
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ASW attack at 37,69
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Japanese Ships * c, l5 z& j- g! u
PC Ch 22
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! ~4 H1 y6 K* QPG Taiko Maru   Q+ P" c: I) w! a4 u6 F
PG Shosei Maru
# @* ]4 H, c( O1 {8 z& s) w" Y3 vPG Seiko Maru
6 \5 a' k9 m" k) xPG Keiko Maru - A) I* @' z6 o3 R$ l
PG Aso Maru
1 Z2 l0 }4 |, h& I3 XPG Tamo Maru #7
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, V- s  B) s! q3 f  ?( ZAllied Ships
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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78
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Allied aircraft
5 d* U6 U& |3 {& I* y, j* `% TBeaufighter Mk 21 x 3
* D( K( s* Z# ]4 w6 H; s# S% NF-5A Lightning x 2
# c0 |. P4 g/ f5 [  e5 V. OB-25J Mitchell x 135 $ w# q+ g; u7 o+ i& @$ S
  
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! m8 T0 K( r! t& e* V. fAllied aircraft losses # K' ]5 F" A: I  i$ K, V' j! k
B-25J Mitchell: 9 damaged
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1 w2 p$ h- w+ a, J; Z- [; qJapanese ground losses: ' Q! h& L4 i6 L+ T( o
163 casualties reported # A3 i% o1 `+ w: [! k2 S  Z
Guns lost 1
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8 w$ b3 T/ ^( r8 BAirbase hits 6
* E5 [0 I, j: w3 J! sAirbase supply hits 3 ! q" ]- s. O# h4 \7 @  Q
Runway hits 126
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8 M+ Z! a) `  U+ {Aircraft Attacking: " l& n) x2 Z1 w5 @" z3 [  A
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 1 p) A& Z- `& E8 x% A
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet , m4 W1 m( y6 s: c( D, @% l
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
9 k! P$ d. n$ e7 O) C3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet : M, N. G! j3 }7 o
16 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
2 O, I/ c. R* B: x24 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
. z7 {' b' A7 _% K& b0 h13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
1 L, o: H$ g9 C& J& |4 t4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
3 G8 p6 c% x2 M! w! E3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
9 [+ I' u- Z: V# q10 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
  R6 k3 E  w, o13 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ! c0 C! M( V$ ~5 X7 N
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet ; h' u8 M$ @, g* Q; X. @9 i
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 9 D0 N0 @* }- o& t; Q; h  [
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 7 l8 }8 g: b, ^
6 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet $ o4 D1 a3 w" e' m5 R' s0 D# N: Q
2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet / V4 V4 J& b2 q) \% F+ l
4 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
$ w" s) K5 C5 \" l4 g2 w- W7 }5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet 7 s- e3 r) f' ^3 ?
3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
4 }- _, X6 }$ |* U1 s* H, j3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
, T6 q' T2 n7 E! J1 Z; ]0 K3 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
# ^3 W" [, E- \2 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 10000 feet
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  s, @7 E+ j4 h" ADay Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53 ) I( `! h6 h9 w% O$ S* m0 B7 s
  
8 g1 b4 e- T4 b9 ~) xJapanese aircraft
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A6M5c Zeke x 47 $ v1 [- H+ y; b# \2 c1 a
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No Japanese losses
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( \* ^) P0 c) C2 n) [+ h. tRunway hits 30 & u4 L" V; s) w, t. [4 A
  
7 c0 I0 X# L! O5 r( S% PAircraft Attacking:
6 }+ H0 @3 r1 o- M' I+ w8 K27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet * o3 g8 B' |9 {: b6 j- i( i. |- @
27 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet : y7 W6 ~/ M5 z8 v7 f8 S0 `) [
47 x A6M5c Zeke bombing at 2000 feet
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/ j) q8 `% u4 R0 TDay Air attack on TF at 14,79 5 T8 Q3 u, w. f' ?! P
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Japanese aircraft
5 f; R# W, S- D4 m: cA6M5 Zeke x 84
' G9 l8 h. O$ e, f, N, Y; G# Z4 d/ BD3A Val x 98
$ V1 r- l' [: c5 SD4Y Judy x 95
" `* k. p  e& I- YB5N Kate x 129 5 I" d) N* A+ q% m$ W- O
B6N Jill x 47 + R1 _4 c7 F0 L; y# L0 X7 e
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Allied aircraft & B2 V& X! h5 M' e* v) [$ Z
F6F Hellcat x 147 . ^! k1 R4 n" D. l: s! `) Y
Corsair IV x 24
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( r3 e3 h- `' p6 U- [# \Japanese aircraft losses 1 h: h+ p- j' V, w( p
A6M5 Zeke: 84 destroyed
% I+ J- p  c7 _! zD3A Val: 73 destroyed
4 c  Z  S7 B% h1 n5 Z: mD4Y Judy: 72 destroyed
  N' u2 K+ c' p( K, i8 W. AB5N Kate: 106 destroyed ) o7 I. }3 f4 K; ^
B6N Jill: 40 destroyed " @( k0 M# B2 ~3 ~$ j+ G+ s
  
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F6F Hellcat: 27 destroyed, 10 damaged
6 `1 m2 W9 u* WCorsair IV: 1 damaged
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6 |& p' g% Z- qCVL Cabot 4 v' U4 J8 q5 _1 ]
CV Illustrious, Bomb hits 1
; L, L# k$ e6 G1 f: H) y$ H+ r) N5 C: wCV Formidable
/ X4 i4 M: {  K! ^CVL Langley * L" F+ {1 e- D
CLAA San Diego
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' ^# L; }4 @1 r6 ^) [6 k/ z5 eAircraft Attacking: 6 p0 R7 I) R" Q7 y! U! {: s" [
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet 7 O% K, @2 A& b  U+ Z
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet . }! D8 i' k. a( C7 H
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet ! Z% H7 {/ ]; R# s
3 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet 1 d! j) |6 h0 w- y
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
9 Y4 N4 d9 L; a  k  _+ V2 R1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 c: A; y( B, w: H" e5 z3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet - e* ^6 T( z' [* s$ W0 |* B
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
- D% G4 ^/ @  L$ z, B/ u1 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
: A* B2 n# G3 b+ p# B0 b2 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet ; D4 t/ Y5 e! `$ S
2 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
$ a, n" @  l# v/ z/ ^$ _3 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet . {# _5 O4 y6 U& S
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
. e# U1 |! I! _9 m* s. p  f# r4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet $ ?8 Y# E$ ?7 Y3 p1 E
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
$ m5 i. y4 H* j9 [5 j; A, d6 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet   ]6 m8 H  ^  q
9 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
4 @$ l8 c2 o& [; ]* L# b* G- h3 x B6N Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet 6 D4 Y9 d% F. P
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
7 N8 {( c6 H6 L3 k$ `6 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet % b$ V: Y- {1 l! }
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+ ^3 @1 K. |% ^/ D8 O' Q# wDay Air attack on TF at 14,79 0 P) ?) v) N( P, \% ]. R3 ^
  
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* b0 |" b4 r5 b8 e3 P# OA6M5 Zeke x 6 7 D2 z+ R3 d9 ?( w7 l. F2 F6 X
D4Y Judy x 27 % v* D; M, E1 U$ @( g
A6M3a Zero x 9 / p' m' A* x6 l  p6 L
B5N Kate x 18
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- S5 k& G' x  g$ e# w/ ~Allied aircraft
% a8 s; _: Z/ u5 p. gF6F Hellcat x 120
  L1 o& ~0 {$ n- NCorsair IV x 24
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Japanese aircraft losses & U/ m8 b3 g6 g) E' v
A6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed
) F0 l, C) r- r* I, |3 ?( h2 ID4Y Judy: 20 destroyed
$ e$ ]+ r6 ^1 H2 EA6M3a Zero: 7 destroyed % \% g- l- u( z6 d& d; R
B5N Kate: 17 destroyed
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+ y& J2 W5 x* t) u. j" tAllied aircraft losses - ?2 B2 B' R3 k9 Y! z& t7 d2 D- ?
F6F Hellcat: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
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1 b* c+ U  {1 y+ T) ]CV Intrepid, Bomb hits 1
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3 f% v( {- p( ?6 \, B1 `+ ZAircraft Attacking: : C6 k2 h+ R$ I1 ^3 G# }  W! Z
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet
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2 k/ q' x- C' ~4 X% `5 DDay Air attack on TF at 14,79
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A6M5 Zeke x 9 9 t! N2 C2 Z; L: b
D3A Val x 9 , n/ l8 F$ l4 O0 ^
D4Y Judy x 27 / a% q% D* m/ ]% F6 o8 z
B5N Kate x 18 ' U( n7 y+ `9 q
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Allied aircraft
) t- Z. P+ E5 I0 V* x7 YF6F Hellcat x 115 + E8 ^! ^$ z4 K$ Z
Corsair IV x 24
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Japanese aircraft losses ; H2 r3 J6 ^/ c2 Z5 g
A6M5 Zeke: 7 destroyed
( T6 }: O' t: k4 MD3A Val: 9 destroyed 0 a; o' J7 V5 z5 U# b  P* |
D4Y Judy: 21 destroyed
+ I7 e8 c4 n) U# t! B7 yB5N Kate: 10 destroyed - a! b# p9 q; E9 q7 `
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Allied aircraft losses
- ^* q% q& l' P3 `F6F Hellcat: 4 destroyed
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Allied Ships
' F+ k1 @2 V% ]1 P) q% @5 Y  {( DCV Bunker Hill, Bomb hits 1,  on fire 4 ]! B% \. V, V3 q+ ~# D2 z) x2 K
DD Sampson, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
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Aircraft Attacking: 6 M! w) \/ I2 j6 G
1 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
0 {& T8 x0 T/ M4 L' Y$ p8 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet . _) X" ~: R( `/ E0 ]
5 x D4Y Judy bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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G4M1 Betty x 6
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: b/ _7 ?( ?+ s+ d! XF6F Hellcat x 98 5 W9 ~/ H% G  u5 S
Corsair IV x 23
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Japanese aircraft losses 5 e% h) E( s0 I7 e1 j4 r& O/ L& ~
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses 4 z( L5 v  j4 \: ?, K) v
F6F Hellcat: 1 damaged 0 q, s" F) F- y; k/ W$ m! \
  
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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G4M1 Betty x 3
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Allied aircraft
" f" }3 I1 a- Q, O3 lF6F Hellcat x 98   T/ w# K6 ?+ @3 J  N
Corsair IV x 23   Y. S; l- T) w2 |2 [* g# T  d3 Q
  
3 t/ G: i! b( k4 C) ~Japanese aircraft losses
: ~5 L6 h& ~9 f/ W$ D7 G1 e& qG4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,79
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Japanese aircraft
. B' w! a8 D' ~, K. r: ~4 AA6M5 Zeke x 50 4 t9 c& m% q6 X, Y% x  B
D3A Val x 15
" y7 R( ]' F/ I- f4 k3 \+ yD4Y Judy x 15 4 l( g5 X* M- t
A6M3a Zero x 6 * q! n2 N5 T& S0 H5 D
B5N Kate x 17
) t$ r1 G( l* b/ S4 ]B6N Jill x 2 1 R8 s7 d# |1 E! q+ F
  
% O& L0 \6 T) X6 k: a) B. lAllied aircraft : S9 S* v6 w, d- G
F6F Hellcat x 98 : B9 Y- z0 {9 F4 q+ r5 \1 }
Corsair IV x 23 " q" U! V' p: [
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Japanese aircraft losses
. s$ e3 L0 @' c! ^A6M5 Zeke: 50 destroyed
+ ^  i& p. |/ ~; ]D3A Val: 12 destroyed 0 ^, t5 `9 x  |6 T0 O0 h/ k
D4Y Judy: 9 destroyed 9 Z- E5 e" C& w" B; H
A6M3a Zero: 5 destroyed
/ c  J+ I( v( u1 z# v, F: R/ U6 kB5N Kate: 16 destroyed ! Q9 c: o+ q; s
B6N Jill: 2 destroyed
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, _4 E+ c$ q& O0 f7 H; L& aAllied aircraft losses
1 N, q% G/ F; k1 @0 a( _5 fF6F Hellcat: 15 destroyed, 9 damaged . G& [6 b/ q6 W; A6 \  h+ b
Corsair IV: 1 destroyed ; c9 y% y& G$ k+ J# _& }1 Y
  
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: Q6 M( s# x; ^" D4 Q6 NCV Formidable
# C% N  f1 Q9 ?/ I5 wCV Illustrious
1 U# M. Q" x# \CVL Cabot
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/ ~: E2 M, D9 U) g9 kAircraft Attacking: # q% F$ }4 }% Y
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
8 f7 _1 K$ Y8 S  p8 }( h; O1 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet 2 ?0 |( t' [! U" P1 C
1 x B5N Kate bombing at 14000 feet  
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[ 本帖最后由 wildcat 于 2006-12-7 11:07 编辑 ]
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-6 18:23 发表
8 `* _, U9 f( f" K4 a; A; X' sPzB vs wobbly的我一直有看,他的战报既详细又配图,sneer的无图,不知道哪个位置说打下印度、中国和珍珠港,不过现在盟军已反攻到印度的詹谢谱儿了
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! I' o" ], x- l2 o# T9 _  s; Y* }# v , 看太多戰報,  可能記錯了. 應該是Sneer 另一個戰報吧. 原諒我
原帖由 飞龙 于 2006-12-7 11:10 发表1 d# t5 }6 a" T+ a$ T

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* V) t; Y/ ]. R0 ?& ?2 L  u这个例子里日方护航机数量太少了,面对接近200架F6F能突防就不错了
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80+ exp 的 Zero 52 型 vs 60+ exp F6F 打成這樣. 真像獵火雞
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