talentpanzer

ANDY 在43年-44年 损失了过多的CV，CVL，CVE 。　　直到43年 ANDY形势还是很好的： 印度，新西兰都在手中;BB,CV 的损失相当小。 :
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3 {1 z. n) |0 i$ \1 b( K9 f! Q英国CV 几近全灭（将来会有补充）  44年永久损失2艘美国舰队CV   现在连BB损失也追上来了。而CVE，CVL的永久损失也达到总数10%了   接下来的TF58 将是至今战报中最弱的了（当然 还是很牛） 而KB几乎是至今战报中最完整的。的确符合FREESTYLE的梦想啊：） 4 G  }8 H$ Q2 R2 ]2 T
但日军领土前期扩张不足，且防御纵深也不够（主要 油田难以保护） 加上美军后续还有大量增援 。。。还是很艰难的。
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talentpanzer

Pauk的总结我也看了 他也认为英国CV的过早 过大的永久性损失对ANDY伤害很大。 加上先前的美军舰队CV的巨大损失 使TF58的海航无法独立对抗日本陆海军航空队 其实ANDY已经改进战术了 集中了足够的陆军战力 如果不是海空失利 应该可以砸开绝对防御圈了。不过时下，美日都是两难。美军岛上有20几W人，如果攻不下或撤不走，就可以直接TJ了。所以明知是坑，也要往下跳了。不过要是真用TF58去硬拼，这可是44年5月了，每艘CV都是永久性损失了 要是和KB拼完了 将来反攻日本本土 战力吃紧。  日军呢 倒是个机会可以重创美军 不过无论是灭了（或困了）近8000AP美军或灭了 10艘以上的BB+CV 都会导致ANDY TJ 吧

talentpanzer

此战后至少Ｆ４Ｕ上船
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如果是通用房规　ＡＮＤＹ有啥理由要改呢？
8 i% |' Z% G  D& Y8 X当然ＡＮＤＹ的承受力是很令人敬佩的　也许幸运之神会眷恋他

talentpanzer

现在的ANDY的CVE装大量的FM2 由于没有英国CV的海盗 显然拼不过PAUK
. G* c2 ]0 Z! l# n6 v' a所以他要改房规 (当然ANDY还是有原则的 最早也要在此战后让F-4U 上CVE)9 U( ?1 q+ ~9 }. o1 j; ?

3 w' a% C, t4 Q* H5 k/ R至于TJ .....ANDY的贴子中有一点情绪 就是F-4U不上没法打了....9 n. S) ~3 _; t  u  H" v/ T
我的意思是 : 如果这就是这批30万美军如果被困在岛上了,恐怕就可以宣告大东亚共容啦

talentpanzer

以下是ANDY的贴子
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+ j& r. H8 h3 |% c! j, C/ |其实ANDY是个好同志!: C' B/ P$ b3 n$ C6 N
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OK guys it will be a few days before Pauk gets a turn back I am going to stop whinging and get on with the game - its really not very nice to complain when you are in such a fascinating war.. ) t( p: U- [8 c/ {1 ]

$ A4 G; ~! c2 k6 v5 Z( _" K. LI am not asking for a change in HR's at this point as it would be unfair on Pauk.
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After we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.
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What I need to do is restock my carriers and then go back in hard with just the fleet carriers.
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-17 19:15 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

当然未必输
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7 ~- Q, y+ x( C; o% K/ U可是,本当:绝对赢啊!

talentpanzer

Ground combat at Tinian " X0 M) `# z7 r0 r# _5 }& ~5 h3 w
不幸的ANDY    May god save him!! ! A) Q) @8 X4 m% F
杀日本鬼子啊！; B. n7 j/ `! a$ H& G* E+ D
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Allied Deliberate attack 1 }7 b. Q- W" @' E# c. _9 V$ c
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Attacking force 254685 troops, 2397 guns, 1054 vehicles, Assault Value = 5204 ; j4 u: K) ^; n1 ^1 T& m  a8 k8 r; k9 D
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Defending force 113569 troops, 756 guns, 134 vehicles, Assault Value = 2455 ! X' D8 T' F! o

; K" r( Z( s# h, eAllied max assault: 3594 - adjusted assault: 1871
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' ^1 e- A/ U: y" ~& n4 {Japanese max defense: 2276 - adjusted defense: 3133 ' E, \' w. U( ]9 n

  a1 ?2 v9 B! o4 \4 B9 ]Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7)
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3892 casualties reported / Q* n. Z" T7 r6 U: Z2 K2 o: u, k
Guns lost 56
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Vehicles lost 94
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9 ^; Q0 P/ b2 r* n& K. b另一方面PAUK 将停止对盟军AK,AP的屠杀 好让空中力量休整以待TF58“王者归来”
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My primary goal is clearing waters around Marians and Palaus from enemy subs (KB dive bomber groups are set on 40 % ASW). I must send damaged ships to HI on repairs but i also want to re-mine Tinian ) a# f! p, `! X. K( {$ ~" w" R

- W- w/ c, B8 A; r' S. @Also, reorganising my ground defence is must. Pulled out troops from Palaus, Iwo and Truk. Must move their fragments to Tinian, repair AF damage and rebuild forts
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" m* T) X3 D0 {+ o* u) t  t% e他好像蛮有信心 让30万美军定居小岛哈 & V  j4 B: [, T' ^
这小子认为 ANDY 选择了"bridge too far".  看来这厮是要乘机把ANDY的血放尽啊 就是不知道 是否也会让蝗军也把血流尽
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$ @6 M+ u7 B! E' U) S[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 16:21 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

有好戏看了 为ＡＮＤＹ的承受力喝彩
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I feel I now have no choice its all or nothing. ! Q; g: r  c( I. {
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my carriers are moving extremely slowly despite being undamaged but will all be back at Wake tomorrow within the next 3 days the entire fleet will sail to death or glory I cannot leave 300,000 men on Tinian every ship I can muster is going in - I MUST secure naval superiority over the Marianas so the orders are given.
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: I  W7 h, r( \. f% V. ]All carriers will be setting sail after they have fueled the crippled Hornet will be going in with the fleet - in total 6 Fleet, 3 Light and about 25 Escort Carriers covered by 8 BB's and every destroyer I can find.
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This is it death or glory....
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2 n$ g/ Y% f3 g* D$ F接下来是ＴＦ５８的最期，抑或联合舰队的末日？
4 _/ u" M! ^' [6 H$ x6 H2 ^3 v各位下注吧　ＰＡＵＫ要逆天了吗

talentpanzer

是44年5月# ~8 X- }9 l8 b4 U. B, b5 o$ V) i. U% l
TF58据说是8BB ,6CV,3CVL,25CVE     要独立对抗KB(至今只损失1条CVE!)+12BB(可能大和在修)+无数陆航  唉  加油 盟军!# r7 K% [7 T4 w2 o/ ?( }
43年中还形势大好,就在43年末到44年让PAUK桑翻盘了!
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当然,我也同意包子的说法,只要ANDY指挥,impossible is nothing!3 Q) q3 V! d' M2 K  I3 F2 [, \

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talentpanzer

哈哈哈哈哈阿哈哈啊哈哈哈哈哈
( w1 R( ?$ J6 \ANDY在打一盘很大的麻将

talentpanzer

ANDY要拼啦 $ O1 z1 U1 s8 l# p4 ]: p
CVE's will take two days to arrive at Wake and I am going to wait for them.
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: {: s/ o' j2 Z1 d  I5 Fresh CVE's from West Coast will bring me fully up to strength with where I was a few days ago. 0 J1 p: M! d$ X' X9 v2 K
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All 5 CV's will have 40 F6F's and 36 F4U's or 80 F6F's # _* F) X9 N1 W, L& D
3 CVL's will have 21 F6F's and 9 TBM's
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I should have about 20 CVE's total so about capacity for 600 aircraft. 8 g% j- u0 N7 S0 Q) S$ N' Z; |
3 will operate F6F NF's total of 72. 3 s) x* O4 H: o  O" R4 S; P  |" `- w

0 r& a5 N. U2 s( {4 p' C" `$ _' QBy stripping Saratoga of Hellcats and ditching the replenishment groups I should be able to allocate about another 150 to the CVE's 5 Q: n5 S. _4 y- m' R
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: a9 [3 {" K; v2 j' G* O+ Z7 BThe only reason I can do this is the 200 I did not commit in the first phase.
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Missispi sailed from Pearl to join the fleet at Wake. ' C# n7 t! D, K+ t9 X8 V
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So what is the plan well its simple SEEK out and DESTROY KB.
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I cannot even attempt to fight Jap LBA while KB is a threat I am therefore going to hunt KB down and destroy it if it refuses to come and fight then I will use massed bombardment TF's on Tinian until it does. # W8 w9 a7 l3 n
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My replenishment groups are in reasonable shape still so fuel and ammo are not an issue.
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9 {/ u, T8 u9 lThis is it guys no messing straight down the middle cannons to the left cannons to the right etc etc   x' d2 F9 y! {/ p9 E
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In two days the fleet sails and it WILL rescue the allied armies on Tinian whatever the cost. ! [; @5 Z' |9 E7 k  b: ^$ |/ m
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100多架海盗  TMD !
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& D! r, q; {  D6 M2 E' W/ P# ?日军需要做好损失2000架战机的准备啦
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8 L* n6 S3 @& `" ~, @2 U  C[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-19 21:11 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

据说先前约定 在神风之前不把海军陆站队的海盗上CV( r2 \; p' ^3 \$ M7 C, L4 I

/ M( b6 a1 O$ V( gAfter we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.

talentpanzer

最新进展
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2 @- c: T( `2 i! k  O( WPAUK桑在TINIAN 附近，海空力量联合绞杀，一日击沉敌船54条以上！
$ I& F) S0 z* A" r6 J/ g至今，日军已在Mariana 海域击沉285条敌船其中运输船150艘！不过PAUK自己也在问：
# o- K( M: ^- h( f$ `: o  a3 \I'm finishing the job. 54 more enemy ships are sunk today - just checked how many ships Andy lost in Marians campaign: 285 so far! App 150 of them are transports, and so far Andy lost 300-400 transports. Question for the AFBs - will that hurt Allied transport capabilities?

talentpanzer

43年5月24日7 S8 z; o5 _$ l/ n; `$ S- @

% Q1 l+ n- O" _3 h- z; D) xOne more good turn for the Empire - 49 enemy ships more are now on the list! My subs and SC TFs did the main job there - enemy ships now fleeing in single TFs but my raiders intercepted them several times! Tone TF was very successful - 11 enemy ships are sunk in the night interception. BANZAI! 2 G# d4 q, q. y$ `
今天PAUK的CA队横扫麻里亚纳！ 盟军又被击沉49艘  大家都麻木了吧
" _- L: r! O2 z6 S- ]+ A" X提尼安附近盟军船只 几乎被清空了
7 R- f# l- u& v$ s4 e0 }& o可气的是连日本陆航都拿无辜商船做训练靶子了  是可忍 孰不可忍！ “快去告诉罗斯福，ANDY是叛徒！” # P# q3 M5 J$ D& C$ O
Why not train Franks while we have time? Strike from Marians (red arrows showing day air attacks).
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Day Air attack on TF at 67,64
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No Japanese losses
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Allied Ships
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talentpanzer

这倒是错怪ＡＮＤＹ了
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而ＡＮＤＹ又不想让飞行员开ＦＭ２去送死　# t4 \- g! R$ m5 v" u$ M8 a
所以．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．