talentpanzer

ANDY 在43年-44年 损失了过多的CV，CVL，CVE 。　　直到43年 ANDY形势还是很好的： 印度，新西兰都在手中;BB,CV 的损失相当小。 :8 i2 T3 h$ p9 s( e  l
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英国CV 几近全灭（将来会有补充）  44年永久损失2艘美国舰队CV   现在连BB损失也追上来了。而CVE，CVL的永久损失也达到总数10%了   接下来的TF58 将是至今战报中最弱的了（当然 还是很牛） 而KB几乎是至今战报中最完整的。的确符合FREESTYLE的梦想啊：）
7 i" s" T$ F  k5 n6 a但日军领土前期扩张不足，且防御纵深也不够（主要 油田难以保护） 加上美军后续还有大量增援 。。。还是很艰难的。
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而且ANDY要求改房规了  应该是陆战队海盗上CVE  唉

talentpanzer

Pauk的总结我也看了 他也认为英国CV的过早 过大的永久性损失对ANDY伤害很大。 加上先前的美军舰队CV的巨大损失 使TF58的海航无法独立对抗日本陆海军航空队 其实ANDY已经改进战术了 集中了足够的陆军战力 如果不是海空失利 应该可以砸开绝对防御圈了。不过时下，美日都是两难。美军岛上有20几W人，如果攻不下或撤不走，就可以直接TJ了。所以明知是坑，也要往下跳了。不过要是真用TF58去硬拼，这可是44年5月了，每艘CV都是永久性损失了 要是和KB拼完了 将来反攻日本本土 战力吃紧。  日军呢 倒是个机会可以重创美军 不过无论是灭了（或困了）近8000AP美军或灭了 10艘以上的BB+CV 都会导致ANDY TJ 吧

talentpanzer

此战后至少Ｆ４Ｕ上船 & x3 ~% O3 q* X1 J; x
不知道原来的房规如何5 `) f+ [5 o* [( ^! m& C( |3 K
如果是通用房规　ＡＮＤＹ有啥理由要改呢？ ( B) A$ V8 e1 z# S+ q' u" P
当然ＡＮＤＹ的承受力是很令人敬佩的　也许幸运之神会眷恋他

talentpanzer

现在的ANDY的CVE装大量的FM2 由于没有英国CV的海盗 显然拼不过PAUK
8 j7 v6 I; `7 l所以他要改房规 (当然ANDY还是有原则的 最早也要在此战后让F-4U 上CVE)
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至于TJ .....ANDY的贴子中有一点情绪 就是F-4U不上没法打了....
$ P  \. Q, N+ H! k5 d5 v2 O我的意思是 : 如果这就是这批30万美军如果被困在岛上了,恐怕就可以宣告大东亚共容啦

talentpanzer

以下是ANDY的贴子: P1 j* ?1 K/ u/ v4 U
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=970411&mpage=29&key=" Q) x9 w' D+ |

: C5 V( p4 s& [' [其实ANDY是个好同志!1 i4 M/ c, j" w- a
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OK guys it will be a few days before Pauk gets a turn back I am going to stop whinging and get on with the game - its really not very nice to complain when you are in such a fascinating war..   D9 B! W$ T. ]

6 x/ x; Z, s6 D7 G- k: [0 \( Y& n! LI am not asking for a change in HR's at this point as it would be unfair on Pauk.
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After we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.
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What I need to do is restock my carriers and then go back in hard with just the fleet carriers.
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Andy
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-17 19:15 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

当然未必输
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可是,本当:绝对赢啊!

talentpanzer

Ground combat at Tinian
7 ?8 W# B% X0 }( ^不幸的ANDY    May god save him!! , w: \0 `* I6 T* d, Z
杀日本鬼子啊！7 `$ u+ G! K% S6 O

7 j3 a, h& X! r9 L) \! J9 Q* Q) @Allied Deliberate attack 1 m! Z0 v( A2 h9 d$ n" u6 L4 R5 U
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Attacking force 254685 troops, 2397 guns, 1054 vehicles, Assault Value = 5204   H/ ^! v6 }  F9 I0 B
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' i7 ?7 @+ ^  M, |7 F$ h% h% _% ]Allied max assault: 3594 - adjusted assault: 1871
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3892 casualties reported
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Guns lost 226
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另一方面PAUK 将停止对盟军AK,AP的屠杀 好让空中力量休整以待TF58“王者归来”
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My primary goal is clearing waters around Marians and Palaus from enemy subs (KB dive bomber groups are set on 40 % ASW). I must send damaged ships to HI on repairs but i also want to re-mine Tinian 8 O5 O, u7 b" K4 {5 T7 e9 D
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Also, reorganising my ground defence is must. Pulled out troops from Palaus, Iwo and Truk. Must move their fragments to Tinian, repair AF damage and rebuild forts
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他好像蛮有信心 让30万美军定居小岛哈
6 x/ Y. |, z( I这小子认为 ANDY 选择了"bridge too far".  看来这厮是要乘机把ANDY的血放尽啊 就是不知道 是否也会让蝗军也把血流尽
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 16:21 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

有好戏看了 为ＡＮＤＹ的承受力喝彩
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I feel I now have no choice its all or nothing. 7 [1 p! E. |6 S" f8 i
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my carriers are moving extremely slowly despite being undamaged but will all be back at Wake tomorrow within the next 3 days the entire fleet will sail to death or glory I cannot leave 300,000 men on Tinian every ship I can muster is going in - I MUST secure naval superiority over the Marianas so the orders are given.
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2 r6 u+ R. k% e3 f. {- T( |All carriers will be setting sail after they have fueled the crippled Hornet will be going in with the fleet - in total 6 Fleet, 3 Light and about 25 Escort Carriers covered by 8 BB's and every destroyer I can find. - I# N4 ~! T1 G9 ]
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This is it death or glory....
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3 H0 i2 }2 u. f$ z! P接下来是ＴＦ５８的最期，抑或联合舰队的末日？   J" y& ~& G' W# U. L. D; ~% j$ c
各位下注吧　ＰＡＵＫ要逆天了吗

talentpanzer

是44年5月
9 v% ^. i) G( {$ D. w2 b; cTF58据说是8BB ,6CV,3CVL,25CVE     要独立对抗KB(至今只损失1条CVE!)+12BB(可能大和在修)+无数陆航  唉  加油 盟军!
9 G# C9 W8 h2 C" E& ~43年中还形势大好,就在43年末到44年让PAUK桑翻盘了!; \' v3 r5 D; w) X) U5 I, ]
不过FREESTYLE不断削弱美军CV ,44年CV决战的梦想,看来还是可能的 ( c# m; ?+ Y7 I! I" Z2 T$ H8 v7 g
当然,我也同意包子的说法,只要ANDY指挥,impossible is nothing!
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 21:23 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

哈哈哈哈哈阿哈哈啊哈哈哈哈哈
( A) }4 ~# e! t0 ZANDY在打一盘很大的麻将

talentpanzer

ANDY要拼啦 6 I9 B* j% l1 i
CVE's will take two days to arrive at Wake and I am going to wait for them. # _& H- a2 q. N2 r9 b
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5 Fresh CVE's from West Coast will bring me fully up to strength with where I was a few days ago. ; k7 d- r' Z: Q% T. H6 R# U' K8 P
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All 5 CV's will have 40 F6F's and 36 F4U's or 80 F6F's * r, Y. G0 q2 n" E6 J
3 CVL's will have 21 F6F's and 9 TBM's 0 M/ `/ \9 m3 p/ y
Hornet will have 90 Helldivers.
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I should have about 20 CVE's total so about capacity for 600 aircraft. & X4 }7 H4 M& B2 ?, s: L' d
3 will operate F6F NF's total of 72.
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; C; K' b) R* V$ I# ^By stripping Saratoga of Hellcats and ditching the replenishment groups I should be able to allocate about another 150 to the CVE's 5 x5 P' i: q- ^0 C4 U

8 [# D% V, z7 VAll other berths will be filled with strike aircraft.
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In total I will have 108 F4U's, 72 F6F NF's and about 450 F6F's I am not commiting any Wildcats with the fleet I cannot afford the pilot losses.
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The only reason I can do this is the 200 I did not commit in the first phase. 3 X+ D# `! h! `1 E0 u

+ t* {1 o0 T$ C) E/ cMissispi sailed from Pearl to join the fleet at Wake.
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So what is the plan well its simple SEEK out and DESTROY KB.
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( ~* s- w0 L1 j2 i* F3 `0 aMy replenishment groups are in reasonable shape still so fuel and ammo are not an issue.
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This is it guys no messing straight down the middle cannons to the left cannons to the right etc etc
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1 U! }3 T7 x) j) z100多架海盗  TMD !
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5 f1 K! \8 d/ b7 ]日军需要做好损失2000架战机的准备啦
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* l9 e' E7 b2 ?) \' v! |$ A[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-19 21:11 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

据说先前约定 在神风之前不把海军陆站队的海盗上CV
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After we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.

talentpanzer

最新进展
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! Z0 ~8 Z; S+ IPAUK桑在TINIAN 附近，海空力量联合绞杀，一日击沉敌船54条以上！
5 ~; R. Q! e% u% t至今，日军已在Mariana 海域击沉285条敌船其中运输船150艘！不过PAUK自己也在问：
4 e8 t* M) |: L' i; m9 \2 y5 ~6 FI'm finishing the job. 54 more enemy ships are sunk today - just checked how many ships Andy lost in Marians campaign: 285 so far! App 150 of them are transports, and so far Andy lost 300-400 transports. Question for the AFBs - will that hurt Allied transport capabilities?

talentpanzer

43年5月24日# `2 b- e* j3 I9 U; r* X4 f

  i8 f% Y/ C, _7 {3 @5 C  G7 WOne more good turn for the Empire - 49 enemy ships more are now on the list! My subs and SC TFs did the main job there - enemy ships now fleeing in single TFs but my raiders intercepted them several times! Tone TF was very successful - 11 enemy ships are sunk in the night interception. BANZAI! 4 p  T- o( R: ^8 {+ U3 ^& R
今天PAUK的CA队横扫麻里亚纳！ 盟军又被击沉49艘  大家都麻木了吧
" u/ J: d0 m, p( u  C( L提尼安附近盟军船只 几乎被清空了
3 r3 o) K+ Z# _$ E9 ?5 B; v可气的是连日本陆航都拿无辜商船做训练靶子了  是可忍 孰不可忍！ “快去告诉罗斯福，ANDY是叛徒！”
( ^# o+ V% }( C/ [6 EWhy not train Franks while we have time? Strike from Marians (red arrows showing day air attacks).
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Day Air attack on TF at 67,64
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Ki-84-Ia Frank x 11
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No Japanese losses
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AK Robert C. Grier, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-20 15:16 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

这倒是错怪ＡＮＤＹ了
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所以．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．