talentpanzer

ANDY 在43年-44年 损失了过多的CV，CVL，CVE 。　　直到43年 ANDY形势还是很好的： 印度，新西兰都在手中;BB,CV 的损失相当小。 :) g2 F% t  E8 R; T; T
打成这样可惜了2 `+ x# L$ T$ h+ a3 w
英国CV 几近全灭（将来会有补充）  44年永久损失2艘美国舰队CV   现在连BB损失也追上来了。而CVE，CVL的永久损失也达到总数10%了   接下来的TF58 将是至今战报中最弱的了（当然 还是很牛） 而KB几乎是至今战报中最完整的。的确符合FREESTYLE的梦想啊：） , @! d+ X0 W4 A, d( A0 f
但日军领土前期扩张不足，且防御纵深也不够（主要 油田难以保护） 加上美军后续还有大量增援 。。。还是很艰难的。
4 }. H. J$ x* j( Y- n# m, }如果三十万美军被困在提尼安。。。 ANDY恐怕会TJ的 ! H& K8 R; ]+ d4 r' J3 S
而且ANDY要求改房规了  应该是陆战队海盗上CVE  唉

talentpanzer

Pauk的总结我也看了 他也认为英国CV的过早 过大的永久性损失对ANDY伤害很大。 加上先前的美军舰队CV的巨大损失 使TF58的海航无法独立对抗日本陆海军航空队 其实ANDY已经改进战术了 集中了足够的陆军战力 如果不是海空失利 应该可以砸开绝对防御圈了。不过时下，美日都是两难。美军岛上有20几W人，如果攻不下或撤不走，就可以直接TJ了。所以明知是坑，也要往下跳了。不过要是真用TF58去硬拼，这可是44年5月了，每艘CV都是永久性损失了 要是和KB拼完了 将来反攻日本本土 战力吃紧。  日军呢 倒是个机会可以重创美军 不过无论是灭了（或困了）近8000AP美军或灭了 10艘以上的BB+CV 都会导致ANDY TJ 吧

talentpanzer

此战后至少Ｆ４Ｕ上船 6 H2 s/ S6 `0 W9 [
不知道原来的房规如何
# w, f2 S' _9 C3 P, ?5 ~如果是通用房规　ＡＮＤＹ有啥理由要改呢？
/ j1 r; n  w4 M# n5 j当然ＡＮＤＹ的承受力是很令人敬佩的　也许幸运之神会眷恋他

talentpanzer

现在的ANDY的CVE装大量的FM2 由于没有英国CV的海盗 显然拼不过PAUK
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至于TJ .....ANDY的贴子中有一点情绪 就是F-4U不上没法打了....
6 P8 i1 [5 a/ i8 V! J我的意思是 : 如果这就是这批30万美军如果被困在岛上了,恐怕就可以宣告大东亚共容啦

talentpanzer

以下是ANDY的贴子
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其实ANDY是个好同志!
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OK guys it will be a few days before Pauk gets a turn back I am going to stop whinging and get on with the game - its really not very nice to complain when you are in such a fascinating war.. , b9 a. P- H  }) l

/ d1 u) _. k6 WI am not asking for a change in HR's at this point as it would be unfair on Pauk. / e' i7 ?! M$ r/ w/ R& U
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After we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other. 2 b: {; D* H" N3 {% Q

8 l: e3 g, X6 E) y3 R5 LWhat I need to do is restock my carriers and then go back in hard with just the fleet carriers.
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Andy
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-17 19:15 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

当然未必输( E- R$ L) l* ~  k
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可是,本当:绝对赢啊!

talentpanzer

Ground combat at Tinian
6 v6 X* \! P6 x" o# Q7 B% ]不幸的ANDY    May god save him!!
8 V6 ]8 a5 L1 G, j$ o) n杀日本鬼子啊！, m' m) ^" y2 _6 m2 f- {

1 Y, i1 h/ f* Y- O8 k8 [! \# m! ?Allied Deliberate attack - D# S, v9 F& q  g8 Y! l9 h! M2 Y
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Attacking force 254685 troops, 2397 guns, 1054 vehicles, Assault Value = 5204   a- V/ ]5 E; o- e" ?7 m' A7 e" |

( Y2 M3 [$ ]8 m0 NDefending force 113569 troops, 756 guns, 134 vehicles, Assault Value = 2455
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, X" L+ ]) B  N8 Y& |Allied max assault: 3594 - adjusted assault: 1871 ! E) v0 T# U. y7 p, v; \8 ^6 p! }
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Japanese max defense: 2276 - adjusted defense: 3133
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Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7) 8 w* }3 V1 q1 U" U& b! N2 N& c
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; ^7 h- A1 ?4 l4 U3 o8 `# [Japanese ground losses: . X" ]! P0 X- {" O  T0 e
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Guns lost 56
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3595 casualties reported
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6 r" i7 o& j+ O$ L& c5 ^另一方面PAUK 将停止对盟军AK,AP的屠杀 好让空中力量休整以待TF58“王者归来”0 r! t- B9 F: D9 ]9 ?- n; r
尤其可怕的是他以下表态
* t/ X1 m4 u2 w6 QMy primary goal is clearing waters around Marians and Palaus from enemy subs (KB dive bomber groups are set on 40 % ASW). I must send damaged ships to HI on repairs but i also want to re-mine Tinian / c; W2 S% k4 u
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Also, reorganising my ground defence is must. Pulled out troops from Palaus, Iwo and Truk. Must move their fragments to Tinian, repair AF damage and rebuild forts
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0 B* C1 @- N  l$ X5 j4 m- P. W他好像蛮有信心 让30万美军定居小岛哈
1 p! Y6 d2 `, A3 n4 c/ |这小子认为 ANDY 选择了"bridge too far".  看来这厮是要乘机把ANDY的血放尽啊 就是不知道 是否也会让蝗军也把血流尽3 q) r) B8 m; b* H% E0 V- m/ A

% W( S4 y/ n. f+ t0 S: d- H[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 16:21 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

有好戏看了 为ＡＮＤＹ的承受力喝彩 # i' v1 B! {! M1 ^' x
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I feel I now have no choice its all or nothing. . @8 M/ _* I% G. `$ S. m1 O

- J) x4 z+ w9 K6 H7 G7 N, @7 o! E3 ^my carriers are moving extremely slowly despite being undamaged but will all be back at Wake tomorrow within the next 3 days the entire fleet will sail to death or glory I cannot leave 300,000 men on Tinian every ship I can muster is going in - I MUST secure naval superiority over the Marianas so the orders are given. # i' X  s$ q/ P) Q8 p% y: L3 [
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All carriers will be setting sail after they have fueled the crippled Hornet will be going in with the fleet - in total 6 Fleet, 3 Light and about 25 Escort Carriers covered by 8 BB's and every destroyer I can find. 9 _& E4 ^) F6 z# [

8 [; g3 A% `* r( ]3 _( a; p: NThis is it death or glory.... ) G: _1 j, {2 x' R8 T
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接下来是ＴＦ５８的最期，抑或联合舰队的末日？
% l2 d! S8 g2 M9 I7 S/ ?( [各位下注吧　ＰＡＵＫ要逆天了吗

talentpanzer

是44年5月
  ]8 U9 M; t3 a: A- P& TTF58据说是8BB ,6CV,3CVL,25CVE     要独立对抗KB(至今只损失1条CVE!)+12BB(可能大和在修)+无数陆航  唉  加油 盟军!
% X+ H$ I7 h' f/ ?43年中还形势大好,就在43年末到44年让PAUK桑翻盘了!
" m' Z0 b; c+ U  _不过FREESTYLE不断削弱美军CV ,44年CV决战的梦想,看来还是可能的
6 ~1 J$ E# E8 K5 ]当然,我也同意包子的说法,只要ANDY指挥,impossible is nothing!. |( J* x/ h" R5 s1 p: a

9 J- x! X! l* @8 z" v[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 21:23 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

哈哈哈哈哈阿哈哈啊哈哈哈哈哈 / C, ]; r9 v2 D' r5 r
ANDY在打一盘很大的麻将

talentpanzer

ANDY要拼啦 1 `$ M' k( D: v" Z
CVE's will take two days to arrive at Wake and I am going to wait for them.
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5 F  ^5 Z  |+ j& O2 W5 Fresh CVE's from West Coast will bring me fully up to strength with where I was a few days ago. 6 F5 r' D7 e  _
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All 5 CV's will have 40 F6F's and 36 F4U's or 80 F6F's
8 L) F$ F: X% `7 c5 D3 CVL's will have 21 F6F's and 9 TBM's
& D8 N" @: e* s& X2 y) K8 R$ |Hornet will have 90 Helldivers. 6 c% [. ?+ s$ m4 ^" Q2 O
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+ n! t# ^1 s* J# Q! J0 I5 U# AAll other berths will be filled with strike aircraft.
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In total I will have 108 F4U's, 72 F6F NF's and about 450 F6F's I am not commiting any Wildcats with the fleet I cannot afford the pilot losses. ) t4 {. p& D7 C; s' ]/ K" H* D2 G0 |" p

* ~- y  y" `7 XThe only reason I can do this is the 200 I did not commit in the first phase.
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, Q- S  c( v' K2 Y' v+ `) WMissispi sailed from Pearl to join the fleet at Wake.
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So what is the plan well its simple SEEK out and DESTROY KB.
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& l8 M1 D; T* `; cI cannot even attempt to fight Jap LBA while KB is a threat I am therefore going to hunt KB down and destroy it if it refuses to come and fight then I will use massed bombardment TF's on Tinian until it does.
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  k" s' u$ H) x7 x) KMy replenishment groups are in reasonable shape still so fuel and ammo are not an issue.
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6 X* I4 M, P) l7 j: |This is it guys no messing straight down the middle cannons to the left cannons to the right etc etc 0 _& L9 K" D+ L. L7 F

; [5 f* D) j) y, C6 c$ cIn two days the fleet sails and it WILL rescue the allied armies on Tinian whatever the cost.
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加上450架F6F  72架F6F NF4 W2 x5 D" Y* K$ u( s
日军需要做好损失2000架战机的准备啦
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& G0 M( J0 f4 o; P[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-19 21:11 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

据说先前约定 在神风之前不把海军陆站队的海盗上CV
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After we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.

talentpanzer

最新进展
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$ i; h+ m+ H! m& w! t  sPAUK桑在TINIAN 附近，海空力量联合绞杀，一日击沉敌船54条以上！ , A- J! g5 X. C
至今，日军已在Mariana 海域击沉285条敌船其中运输船150艘！不过PAUK自己也在问：  A8 W7 [- [0 w7 X# e1 T8 T
I'm finishing the job. 54 more enemy ships are sunk today - just checked how many ships Andy lost in Marians campaign: 285 so far! App 150 of them are transports, and so far Andy lost 300-400 transports. Question for the AFBs - will that hurt Allied transport capabilities?

talentpanzer

43年5月24日
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, r- p5 |+ w/ i& ?+ }% O7 {$ vOne more good turn for the Empire - 49 enemy ships more are now on the list! My subs and SC TFs did the main job there - enemy ships now fleeing in single TFs but my raiders intercepted them several times! Tone TF was very successful - 11 enemy ships are sunk in the night interception. BANZAI!
" x( p$ z* [- e- J3 L今天PAUK的CA队横扫麻里亚纳！ 盟军又被击沉49艘  大家都麻木了吧
4 z& V2 p5 S' w; ~9 ?提尼安附近盟军船只 几乎被清空了0 r0 d3 [' G5 g8 m+ F
可气的是连日本陆航都拿无辜商船做训练靶子了  是可忍 孰不可忍！ “快去告诉罗斯福，ANDY是叛徒！”
! z7 ?' E# S: z2 tWhy not train Franks while we have time? Strike from Marians (red arrows showing day air attacks).
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Day Air attack on TF at 67,64
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6 I9 c4 E6 F& E3 x! wAK Robert C. Grier, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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3 o8 X' K) B  m& _2 m) z[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-20 15:16 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

这倒是错怪ＡＮＤＹ了
2 w- w9 m/ e, L4 N% R2 Z& Q他和ＰＡＵＫ都提到了盟军的Ｆ６都上舰了！ （连夜战型都上了）
: F! ?% H- A7 n3 u而ＡＮＤＹ又不想让飞行员开ＦＭ２去送死　
8 N! n/ L* [0 ?+ e* E1 ~6 l- O# L所以．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．