talentpanzer

ANDY 在43年-44年 损失了过多的CV，CVL，CVE 。　　直到43年 ANDY形势还是很好的： 印度，新西兰都在手中;BB,CV 的损失相当小。 :
% C% a  P5 \# z$ ~; v打成这样可惜了
1 I- G( J: e4 P- r" Y英国CV 几近全灭（将来会有补充）  44年永久损失2艘美国舰队CV   现在连BB损失也追上来了。而CVE，CVL的永久损失也达到总数10%了   接下来的TF58 将是至今战报中最弱的了（当然 还是很牛） 而KB几乎是至今战报中最完整的。的确符合FREESTYLE的梦想啊：） . W$ D0 V" I1 ^0 [2 X9 \
但日军领土前期扩张不足，且防御纵深也不够（主要 油田难以保护） 加上美军后续还有大量增援 。。。还是很艰难的。
5 A: D$ ]; ~, G, Y如果三十万美军被困在提尼安。。。 ANDY恐怕会TJ的
# G& _: a0 r9 m! i而且ANDY要求改房规了  应该是陆战队海盗上CVE  唉

talentpanzer

Pauk的总结我也看了 他也认为英国CV的过早 过大的永久性损失对ANDY伤害很大。 加上先前的美军舰队CV的巨大损失 使TF58的海航无法独立对抗日本陆海军航空队 其实ANDY已经改进战术了 集中了足够的陆军战力 如果不是海空失利 应该可以砸开绝对防御圈了。不过时下，美日都是两难。美军岛上有20几W人，如果攻不下或撤不走，就可以直接TJ了。所以明知是坑，也要往下跳了。不过要是真用TF58去硬拼，这可是44年5月了，每艘CV都是永久性损失了 要是和KB拼完了 将来反攻日本本土 战力吃紧。  日军呢 倒是个机会可以重创美军 不过无论是灭了（或困了）近8000AP美军或灭了 10艘以上的BB+CV 都会导致ANDY TJ 吧

talentpanzer

此战后至少Ｆ４Ｕ上船
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如果是通用房规　ＡＮＤＹ有啥理由要改呢？ 4 ?8 e3 s8 |+ Z; Z3 l) C7 P
当然ＡＮＤＹ的承受力是很令人敬佩的　也许幸运之神会眷恋他

talentpanzer

现在的ANDY的CVE装大量的FM2 由于没有英国CV的海盗 显然拼不过PAUK
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+ h+ c: T- |/ n至于TJ .....ANDY的贴子中有一点情绪 就是F-4U不上没法打了....6 j# v, Y5 V0 U/ o' x. q- A% I3 E
我的意思是 : 如果这就是这批30万美军如果被困在岛上了,恐怕就可以宣告大东亚共容啦

talentpanzer

以下是ANDY的贴子1 u! I8 d4 O6 u& `% }3 {! v' \/ M+ r
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=970411&mpage=29&key=
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+ x' T2 s4 O! X  K8 N其实ANDY是个好同志!2 R7 ^7 B) P- n
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OK guys it will be a few days before Pauk gets a turn back I am going to stop whinging and get on with the game - its really not very nice to complain when you are in such a fascinating war..
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I am not asking for a change in HR's at this point as it would be unfair on Pauk. ; e3 ~; `( U; V2 t9 ?

4 X  g( b# ?6 Y) G- c( Q- nAfter we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.
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: {2 Z" D8 M2 ?4 W3 P) bWhat I need to do is restock my carriers and then go back in hard with just the fleet carriers. , {" J" d0 _7 m- P( }

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) `( Q3 A6 V# {. U[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-17 19:15 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

当然未必输* j$ H( t7 N( J

2 V7 X* J. d1 \可是,本当:绝对赢啊!

talentpanzer

Ground combat at Tinian / J! N" {5 }. {/ S
不幸的ANDY    May god save him!! * N2 G5 R/ M$ w" p( J( q& Q5 k# w
杀日本鬼子啊！
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Allied Deliberate attack
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+ o# {3 k1 K( T- d3 X% j9 o4 X3 LAttacking force 254685 troops, 2397 guns, 1054 vehicles, Assault Value = 5204
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% q' I" B2 K0 c9 }9 d. V  \1 k+ BDefending force 113569 troops, 756 guns, 134 vehicles, Assault Value = 2455
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  j; f! }/ l0 cAllied max assault: 3594 - adjusted assault: 1871 : T- G. O4 m& y* P/ h
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Japanese max defense: 2276 - adjusted defense: 3133 5 I+ S( r$ s6 |% Z9 z2 H2 p
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Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7)
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. f3 U! J7 r* K% O& J1 PGuns lost 56 & B" H; a2 @0 H3 s1 v
Vehicles lost 4 4 F0 L: ?) m" F4 R; R9 I* e
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3595 casualties reported 7 P, }$ x4 L" f% X: Q2 I2 Q
Guns lost 226 8 N$ y* b5 q7 Q# l9 u( D  `( o
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/ ?/ b& N' f& ^. n另一方面PAUK 将停止对盟军AK,AP的屠杀 好让空中力量休整以待TF58“王者归来”
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My primary goal is clearing waters around Marians and Palaus from enemy subs (KB dive bomber groups are set on 40 % ASW). I must send damaged ships to HI on repairs but i also want to re-mine Tinian / b4 R6 F6 o: \2 q4 A6 r
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Also, reorganising my ground defence is must. Pulled out troops from Palaus, Iwo and Truk. Must move their fragments to Tinian, repair AF damage and rebuild forts( j' T( H" O: e/ g  I# S
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他好像蛮有信心 让30万美军定居小岛哈
/ }' \, C+ g7 J7 }这小子认为 ANDY 选择了"bridge too far".  看来这厮是要乘机把ANDY的血放尽啊 就是不知道 是否也会让蝗军也把血流尽
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 16:21 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

有好戏看了 为ＡＮＤＹ的承受力喝彩 8 D) K  H, j/ i( P

9 A  f! A2 b. QI feel I now have no choice its all or nothing. 5 ]8 Q' k& x# m8 E/ v

6 f1 L1 [) p0 g! {my carriers are moving extremely slowly despite being undamaged but will all be back at Wake tomorrow within the next 3 days the entire fleet will sail to death or glory I cannot leave 300,000 men on Tinian every ship I can muster is going in - I MUST secure naval superiority over the Marianas so the orders are given. 0 e; K* Y3 \" H0 Q/ L; m
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All carriers will be setting sail after they have fueled the crippled Hornet will be going in with the fleet - in total 6 Fleet, 3 Light and about 25 Escort Carriers covered by 8 BB's and every destroyer I can find. # ^) x! [% t% u  _8 Z

  B6 y' t1 R* E& y: [This is it death or glory.... 3 h. Z1 n  ~1 p0 f) Q3 c4 x
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接下来是ＴＦ５８的最期，抑或联合舰队的末日？ 5 R# z3 I* A# x7 K
各位下注吧　ＰＡＵＫ要逆天了吗

talentpanzer

是44年5月- q% z/ h0 w+ X* ]6 b" s; D; H
TF58据说是8BB ,6CV,3CVL,25CVE     要独立对抗KB(至今只损失1条CVE!)+12BB(可能大和在修)+无数陆航  唉  加油 盟军!
4 c! W* s4 O" I) }9 L7 D43年中还形势大好,就在43年末到44年让PAUK桑翻盘了!
' Y! y+ P6 a; D( R- G+ w. d不过FREESTYLE不断削弱美军CV ,44年CV决战的梦想,看来还是可能的
9 `4 S9 s2 _/ c当然,我也同意包子的说法,只要ANDY指挥,impossible is nothing!
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 21:23 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

哈哈哈哈哈阿哈哈啊哈哈哈哈哈
3 a* R6 f" S( z/ @8 T1 bANDY在打一盘很大的麻将

talentpanzer

ANDY要拼啦 & P7 W* `' I) u/ o0 t  k  c
CVE's will take two days to arrive at Wake and I am going to wait for them.
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' I2 w6 X' V" V3 K0 P/ o5 Fresh CVE's from West Coast will bring me fully up to strength with where I was a few days ago.
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All 5 CV's will have 40 F6F's and 36 F4U's or 80 F6F's
& A% V' Z# j6 W5 f3 CVL's will have 21 F6F's and 9 TBM's
8 ~7 j! e$ O1 e- @- AHornet will have 90 Helldivers. 8 N1 \. G" B+ i( `, w* ~& C0 b0 C
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I should have about 20 CVE's total so about capacity for 600 aircraft.
: }. B' {7 K2 |% u; G3 will operate F6F NF's total of 72.
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By stripping Saratoga of Hellcats and ditching the replenishment groups I should be able to allocate about another 150 to the CVE's
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All other berths will be filled with strike aircraft.
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In total I will have 108 F4U's, 72 F6F NF's and about 450 F6F's I am not commiting any Wildcats with the fleet I cannot afford the pilot losses. 3 j5 D! G2 S* h6 H; E- U

4 c0 d7 S, U& V1 L% EThe only reason I can do this is the 200 I did not commit in the first phase.
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2 @3 W/ ], I2 v0 g  x/ {1 kMissispi sailed from Pearl to join the fleet at Wake. 1 @0 Q' f, h% I2 c
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So what is the plan well its simple SEEK out and DESTROY KB.
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" R: P, Y! [  _" \$ N  ~I cannot even attempt to fight Jap LBA while KB is a threat I am therefore going to hunt KB down and destroy it if it refuses to come and fight then I will use massed bombardment TF's on Tinian until it does. / v( x* e1 m% ], V) v% L2 o, D. x
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My replenishment groups are in reasonable shape still so fuel and ammo are not an issue. , a# E# Z3 p) ~: q1 P% D5 k- A+ i
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This is it guys no messing straight down the middle cannons to the left cannons to the right etc etc
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In two days the fleet sails and it WILL rescue the allied armies on Tinian whatever the cost.
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100多架海盗  TMD !
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$ @& t$ Q+ u$ a- m" }日军需要做好损失2000架战机的准备啦/ K- r; `8 `$ Q# G+ F! a8 k6 m0 U9 ?
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-19 21:11 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

据说先前约定 在神风之前不把海军陆站队的海盗上CV. q( Q* _6 A/ H% {& g5 }* V# F

8 `9 d- h0 A+ M/ d0 OAfter we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.

talentpanzer

最新进展* l2 g4 T$ R: d6 l) o
44年产5月23日
7 f; o7 F; C6 K( ?PAUK桑在TINIAN 附近，海空力量联合绞杀，一日击沉敌船54条以上！
( e6 K! Q" M! P7 q3 l, X2 s9 I- G至今，日军已在Mariana 海域击沉285条敌船其中运输船150艘！不过PAUK自己也在问：
" I: x! H0 h: ]8 W6 l0 f4 X: u5 Y6 eI'm finishing the job. 54 more enemy ships are sunk today - just checked how many ships Andy lost in Marians campaign: 285 so far! App 150 of them are transports, and so far Andy lost 300-400 transports. Question for the AFBs - will that hurt Allied transport capabilities?

talentpanzer

43年5月24日6 M- ~+ {4 d; T9 p7 Q4 p: o) M

$ @- H) L  D" @; e  qOne more good turn for the Empire - 49 enemy ships more are now on the list! My subs and SC TFs did the main job there - enemy ships now fleeing in single TFs but my raiders intercepted them several times! Tone TF was very successful - 11 enemy ships are sunk in the night interception. BANZAI!
4 ?$ k- Y6 Q2 I; r今天PAUK的CA队横扫麻里亚纳！ 盟军又被击沉49艘  大家都麻木了吧
) S# K3 D# N! ~, u4 }提尼安附近盟军船只 几乎被清空了) B, B/ t1 M7 M$ o/ {! H
可气的是连日本陆航都拿无辜商船做训练靶子了  是可忍 孰不可忍！ “快去告诉罗斯福，ANDY是叛徒！”
+ X: r$ J3 _9 k* f- QWhy not train Franks while we have time? Strike from Marians (red arrows showing day air attacks). , E4 s+ o% Z* Z/ ^  C$ c; \

. I' s8 s5 @; l0 DDay Air attack on TF at 67,64
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Ki-84-Ia Frank x 11 ) a( j1 G8 B6 j, W3 k
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No Japanese losses
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AK Robert C. Grier, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-20 15:16 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

这倒是错怪ＡＮＤＹ了 ) R* F( D) u7 h6 b
他和ＰＡＵＫ都提到了盟军的Ｆ６都上舰了！ （连夜战型都上了）  \2 x; h( E+ i5 X
而ＡＮＤＹ又不想让飞行员开ＦＭ２去送死　% i- n, M! ~# H/ W
所以．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．