talentpanzer

ANDY 在43年-44年 损失了过多的CV，CVL，CVE 。　　直到43年 ANDY形势还是很好的： 印度，新西兰都在手中;BB,CV 的损失相当小。 :: z$ P- j# X' J. e2 J+ [- M
打成这样可惜了
$ m. x+ e; D0 A  P5 \7 I英国CV 几近全灭（将来会有补充）  44年永久损失2艘美国舰队CV   现在连BB损失也追上来了。而CVE，CVL的永久损失也达到总数10%了   接下来的TF58 将是至今战报中最弱的了（当然 还是很牛） 而KB几乎是至今战报中最完整的。的确符合FREESTYLE的梦想啊：） / @' ]- U- ^! \) J% u6 G4 o5 e  ^. [
但日军领土前期扩张不足，且防御纵深也不够（主要 油田难以保护） 加上美军后续还有大量增援 。。。还是很艰难的。 % s2 }7 m, M1 M' Z
如果三十万美军被困在提尼安。。。 ANDY恐怕会TJ的 1 w- O: t+ {6 N# _/ y3 b
而且ANDY要求改房规了  应该是陆战队海盗上CVE  唉

talentpanzer

Pauk的总结我也看了 他也认为英国CV的过早 过大的永久性损失对ANDY伤害很大。 加上先前的美军舰队CV的巨大损失 使TF58的海航无法独立对抗日本陆海军航空队 其实ANDY已经改进战术了 集中了足够的陆军战力 如果不是海空失利 应该可以砸开绝对防御圈了。不过时下，美日都是两难。美军岛上有20几W人，如果攻不下或撤不走，就可以直接TJ了。所以明知是坑，也要往下跳了。不过要是真用TF58去硬拼，这可是44年5月了，每艘CV都是永久性损失了 要是和KB拼完了 将来反攻日本本土 战力吃紧。  日军呢 倒是个机会可以重创美军 不过无论是灭了（或困了）近8000AP美军或灭了 10艘以上的BB+CV 都会导致ANDY TJ 吧

talentpanzer

此战后至少Ｆ４Ｕ上船 ( s, C! Y/ _% P1 U: |
不知道原来的房规如何
8 J7 e, @6 C7 S4 _4 K7 q9 d如果是通用房规　ＡＮＤＹ有啥理由要改呢？
  t% Y0 m$ W6 C+ p! f1 m5 M当然ＡＮＤＹ的承受力是很令人敬佩的　也许幸运之神会眷恋他

talentpanzer

现在的ANDY的CVE装大量的FM2 由于没有英国CV的海盗 显然拼不过PAUK 9 W+ N& q$ ?4 f$ Z, r, C
所以他要改房规 (当然ANDY还是有原则的 最早也要在此战后让F-4U 上CVE)
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7 m3 O1 ~8 H1 B' ]" k$ X至于TJ .....ANDY的贴子中有一点情绪 就是F-4U不上没法打了....3 Y# _; B3 ~9 S( W
我的意思是 : 如果这就是这批30万美军如果被困在岛上了,恐怕就可以宣告大东亚共容啦

talentpanzer

以下是ANDY的贴子+ q4 P  t6 e* V6 F) A) v% n4 T" g: Z
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=970411&mpage=29&key=) I" X5 Y! v; T2 }& j- ~. M: E
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其实ANDY是个好同志!8 X4 b# H) O1 c+ c$ ^" b3 m) y. l8 y  d. P

" \2 K% ^! Y1 X3 K4 I2 kOK guys it will be a few days before Pauk gets a turn back I am going to stop whinging and get on with the game - its really not very nice to complain when you are in such a fascinating war..
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I am not asking for a change in HR's at this point as it would be unfair on Pauk.
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$ `. q) d4 {, r4 [After we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other. ; l$ \$ q! ]" i( w( Z& N0 i5 n5 `) t
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What I need to do is restock my carriers and then go back in hard with just the fleet carriers.
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4 k2 G; o- k+ E* e[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-17 19:15 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

当然未必输
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可是,本当:绝对赢啊!

talentpanzer

Ground combat at Tinian ( R+ ^0 t$ E) c+ f0 l2 R8 X% e
不幸的ANDY    May god save him!! 0 z  L6 A. v$ `- n- Z6 r
杀日本鬼子啊！: d! `. E7 G) Z9 K  S6 B

+ b3 u( c4 H+ V. u1 Z. u; {- i/ G% \Allied Deliberate attack
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8 e. m2 W$ j  h. Z% W* HAttacking force 254685 troops, 2397 guns, 1054 vehicles, Assault Value = 5204
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Defending force 113569 troops, 756 guns, 134 vehicles, Assault Value = 2455 $ e" ~2 f0 p0 y: E# c* `+ @% C
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Allied max assault: 3594 - adjusted assault: 1871 ! ]& ], j! ?$ P" ~- V! \( h# G
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Japanese max defense: 2276 - adjusted defense: 3133 2 }6 A- o6 }$ G& C! P' Z" T

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Guns lost 56
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3595 casualties reported 5 q3 v$ d5 y. a7 v% a! a& Y
Guns lost 226
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另一方面PAUK 将停止对盟军AK,AP的屠杀 好让空中力量休整以待TF58“王者归来”
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8 ~, X' K; q# K4 p6 o0 TMy primary goal is clearing waters around Marians and Palaus from enemy subs (KB dive bomber groups are set on 40 % ASW). I must send damaged ships to HI on repairs but i also want to re-mine Tinian ' Q8 W: l# k0 |6 c
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Also, reorganising my ground defence is must. Pulled out troops from Palaus, Iwo and Truk. Must move their fragments to Tinian, repair AF damage and rebuild forts  b: a. [4 e) b- s$ N
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他好像蛮有信心 让30万美军定居小岛哈 2 v4 I2 d0 M. l3 b3 o) |
这小子认为 ANDY 选择了"bridge too far".  看来这厮是要乘机把ANDY的血放尽啊 就是不知道 是否也会让蝗军也把血流尽
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 16:21 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

有好戏看了 为ＡＮＤＹ的承受力喝彩
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0 T) }! |9 i$ E. n5 @  Y) T7 uI feel I now have no choice its all or nothing.
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my carriers are moving extremely slowly despite being undamaged but will all be back at Wake tomorrow within the next 3 days the entire fleet will sail to death or glory I cannot leave 300,000 men on Tinian every ship I can muster is going in - I MUST secure naval superiority over the Marianas so the orders are given. ( W8 [& G8 G2 H( d( a  X8 f
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All carriers will be setting sail after they have fueled the crippled Hornet will be going in with the fleet - in total 6 Fleet, 3 Light and about 25 Escort Carriers covered by 8 BB's and every destroyer I can find.
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This is it death or glory....
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接下来是ＴＦ５８的最期，抑或联合舰队的末日？
4 V0 k! v; j8 E' o! [& g各位下注吧　ＰＡＵＫ要逆天了吗

talentpanzer

是44年5月( y( H# G4 |! e* k) J4 E, y
TF58据说是8BB ,6CV,3CVL,25CVE     要独立对抗KB(至今只损失1条CVE!)+12BB(可能大和在修)+无数陆航  唉  加油 盟军!
9 G" z3 Q% Q' I( d43年中还形势大好,就在43年末到44年让PAUK桑翻盘了!5 g/ ^+ t/ q5 t7 J9 A$ O
不过FREESTYLE不断削弱美军CV ,44年CV决战的梦想,看来还是可能的
: x+ F3 W7 C+ N* K& D: x; h; z当然,我也同意包子的说法,只要ANDY指挥,impossible is nothing!
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6 p* ]" L1 O" P' [# E[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 21:23 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

哈哈哈哈哈阿哈哈啊哈哈哈哈哈
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talentpanzer

ANDY要拼啦 ; ~3 r3 n+ k6 ~( S
CVE's will take two days to arrive at Wake and I am going to wait for them. 4 A3 k0 N9 D; k, y: {
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5 Fresh CVE's from West Coast will bring me fully up to strength with where I was a few days ago. 8 D  L2 l$ p- c; c5 h& v$ I; y
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All 5 CV's will have 40 F6F's and 36 F4U's or 80 F6F's ! }  Z1 Z4 L, E+ a% G1 k0 g4 M' x9 W
3 CVL's will have 21 F6F's and 9 TBM's * B: c6 M- Z% }; M( D- D: ?2 l
Hornet will have 90 Helldivers. ( G1 }6 V; P$ M0 \
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3 will operate F6F NF's total of 72. 0 V1 G1 m. c, p" ]* W
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By stripping Saratoga of Hellcats and ditching the replenishment groups I should be able to allocate about another 150 to the CVE's
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; M. O1 Q. F' s  E- j3 I5 jIn total I will have 108 F4U's, 72 F6F NF's and about 450 F6F's I am not commiting any Wildcats with the fleet I cannot afford the pilot losses.
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' a0 E7 M9 g* M3 X9 wThe only reason I can do this is the 200 I did not commit in the first phase. . ]- O" g- W) _

" i8 m+ G  Y# V* C* [& Q: bMissispi sailed from Pearl to join the fleet at Wake. 5 U" O. Z4 g1 y& ~* I9 \$ K- n
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So what is the plan well its simple SEEK out and DESTROY KB.
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1 W; f" }7 ?1 X; M0 OI cannot even attempt to fight Jap LBA while KB is a threat I am therefore going to hunt KB down and destroy it if it refuses to come and fight then I will use massed bombardment TF's on Tinian until it does.
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; Z! G$ Z& {3 e0 ^: V0 d+ T; HThis is it guys no messing straight down the middle cannons to the left cannons to the right etc etc " h2 B/ n0 f8 H' t% Y

) r, R" ~2 J3 b1 X: c) L, JIn two days the fleet sails and it WILL rescue the allied armies on Tinian whatever the cost. ; T" k2 F/ {- U( ?

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加上450架F6F  72架F6F NF
( b3 J4 I+ V6 \) d日军需要做好损失2000架战机的准备啦
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-19 21:11 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

据说先前约定 在神风之前不把海军陆站队的海盗上CV2 [7 m# c* q2 m) A6 g
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After we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.

talentpanzer

最新进展$ r- J) u+ \, s! G2 O5 k
44年产5月23日
5 h, p. K$ V% o% [5 Q$ IPAUK桑在TINIAN 附近，海空力量联合绞杀，一日击沉敌船54条以上！
: U! k  Q+ `! e7 Y+ ?至今，日军已在Mariana 海域击沉285条敌船其中运输船150艘！不过PAUK自己也在问：3 ?% G6 w  q% E7 a# o: ^8 b) V
I'm finishing the job. 54 more enemy ships are sunk today - just checked how many ships Andy lost in Marians campaign: 285 so far! App 150 of them are transports, and so far Andy lost 300-400 transports. Question for the AFBs - will that hurt Allied transport capabilities?

talentpanzer

43年5月24日, P2 S" J: q: C( J

* D& i# a1 n* k1 k7 U( J# Q; ^( @) J; XOne more good turn for the Empire - 49 enemy ships more are now on the list! My subs and SC TFs did the main job there - enemy ships now fleeing in single TFs but my raiders intercepted them several times! Tone TF was very successful - 11 enemy ships are sunk in the night interception. BANZAI!
* |2 X7 ?; V, @& Q0 [: D今天PAUK的CA队横扫麻里亚纳！ 盟军又被击沉49艘  大家都麻木了吧 # c/ H2 I8 t" t6 N/ J' z- _
提尼安附近盟军船只 几乎被清空了* S/ O% A9 }, d$ s7 \! B: v9 S
可气的是连日本陆航都拿无辜商船做训练靶子了  是可忍 孰不可忍！ “快去告诉罗斯福，ANDY是叛徒！” & f/ y9 p) E" t  u5 T
Why not train Franks while we have time? Strike from Marians (red arrows showing day air attacks).
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Day Air attack on TF at 67,64
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AK Robert C. Grier, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
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. {& @7 x4 q2 g+ K[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-20 15:16 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

这倒是错怪ＡＮＤＹ了 ' {6 u: O% n  _; w# e! z
他和ＰＡＵＫ都提到了盟军的Ｆ６都上舰了！ （连夜战型都上了）
# d" {1 q; }2 m0 S  I而ＡＮＤＹ又不想让飞行员开ＦＭ２去送死　$ Z/ G. |/ X* x% h; F5 Y
所以．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．