talentpanzer

ANDY 在43年-44年 损失了过多的CV，CVL，CVE 。　　直到43年 ANDY形势还是很好的： 印度，新西兰都在手中;BB,CV 的损失相当小。 :
' H; I/ C& R1 s打成这样可惜了3 u! ^3 s9 `" \: o
英国CV 几近全灭（将来会有补充）  44年永久损失2艘美国舰队CV   现在连BB损失也追上来了。而CVE，CVL的永久损失也达到总数10%了   接下来的TF58 将是至今战报中最弱的了（当然 还是很牛） 而KB几乎是至今战报中最完整的。的确符合FREESTYLE的梦想啊：） $ P- R3 r* q7 p# ]) A) Q' p
但日军领土前期扩张不足，且防御纵深也不够（主要 油田难以保护） 加上美军后续还有大量增援 。。。还是很艰难的。 $ P3 s# h+ |0 {$ X7 f+ J1 c" ]
如果三十万美军被困在提尼安。。。 ANDY恐怕会TJ的
( N" _2 G. d* G% @( g$ V+ d/ p而且ANDY要求改房规了  应该是陆战队海盗上CVE  唉

talentpanzer

Pauk的总结我也看了 他也认为英国CV的过早 过大的永久性损失对ANDY伤害很大。 加上先前的美军舰队CV的巨大损失 使TF58的海航无法独立对抗日本陆海军航空队 其实ANDY已经改进战术了 集中了足够的陆军战力 如果不是海空失利 应该可以砸开绝对防御圈了。不过时下，美日都是两难。美军岛上有20几W人，如果攻不下或撤不走，就可以直接TJ了。所以明知是坑，也要往下跳了。不过要是真用TF58去硬拼，这可是44年5月了，每艘CV都是永久性损失了 要是和KB拼完了 将来反攻日本本土 战力吃紧。  日军呢 倒是个机会可以重创美军 不过无论是灭了（或困了）近8000AP美军或灭了 10艘以上的BB+CV 都会导致ANDY TJ 吧

talentpanzer

此战后至少Ｆ４Ｕ上船
2 m5 T, t7 I6 A* w7 o) M不知道原来的房规如何
  U; N  [1 H2 F如果是通用房规　ＡＮＤＹ有啥理由要改呢？ % u! l8 |9 H8 O8 D* p  v! g
当然ＡＮＤＹ的承受力是很令人敬佩的　也许幸运之神会眷恋他

talentpanzer

现在的ANDY的CVE装大量的FM2 由于没有英国CV的海盗 显然拼不过PAUK 5 h+ l' k' G. q3 {' H% U2 n; `4 i. l
所以他要改房规 (当然ANDY还是有原则的 最早也要在此战后让F-4U 上CVE)  I1 e6 n, `) z" t5 i& }& }

' Y* b4 m1 R% s- ]* U3 E至于TJ .....ANDY的贴子中有一点情绪 就是F-4U不上没法打了....
/ t$ S' Y% x$ E7 t9 u9 p我的意思是 : 如果这就是这批30万美军如果被困在岛上了,恐怕就可以宣告大东亚共容啦

talentpanzer

以下是ANDY的贴子8 _7 C8 M, n& _0 V0 w( M) l! S
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=970411&mpage=29&key=. p/ d) h- K) I: Z, Q5 S

# F  V% V, U  H% i5 Y其实ANDY是个好同志!* x& `; _) Q2 Y  d( \

' w0 x% ?" S5 v% z: u$ h, AOK guys it will be a few days before Pauk gets a turn back I am going to stop whinging and get on with the game - its really not very nice to complain when you are in such a fascinating war..
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  j! r, Q4 e9 |& H! O! j2 {I am not asking for a change in HR's at this point as it would be unfair on Pauk. * n. i3 w& o) _" E9 L: p+ Q
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After we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.
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What I need to do is restock my carriers and then go back in hard with just the fleet carriers. ' O4 A1 V$ J, b: R+ K" h5 K
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Andy
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' t9 H6 L6 }# o: L- L# x  `[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-17 19:15 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

当然未必输0 W$ [) Z' [  y) S

% z8 X+ {( x8 C# s# O, [可是,本当:绝对赢啊!

talentpanzer

Ground combat at Tinian + B9 y+ H+ S& l
不幸的ANDY    May god save him!!
! V7 I$ \0 C3 u杀日本鬼子啊！0 O& Z. r4 S( C/ f$ y1 f
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Allied Deliberate attack 9 K4 k# ~% {, V" _
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Attacking force 254685 troops, 2397 guns, 1054 vehicles, Assault Value = 5204
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5 C: y* Y0 u* a5 g" |7 vDefending force 113569 troops, 756 guns, 134 vehicles, Assault Value = 2455 & H1 o1 C# b7 q; ]7 i
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Allied max assault: 3594 - adjusted assault: 1871
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' M; K4 _: J: I0 f' f$ SJapanese max defense: 2276 - adjusted defense: 3133
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Guns lost 56 * }- J! \4 b! C4 [: H/ }
Vehicles lost 4 0 r( A/ ]& T* |1 R% k# G  @

7 O' s4 ?5 Q8 h: l1 L5 j1 o( XAllied ground losses: 1 _  {7 |/ V+ B# V
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Vehicles lost 94
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另一方面PAUK 将停止对盟军AK,AP的屠杀 好让空中力量休整以待TF58“王者归来”
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My primary goal is clearing waters around Marians and Palaus from enemy subs (KB dive bomber groups are set on 40 % ASW). I must send damaged ships to HI on repairs but i also want to re-mine Tinian
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Also, reorganising my ground defence is must. Pulled out troops from Palaus, Iwo and Truk. Must move their fragments to Tinian, repair AF damage and rebuild forts
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他好像蛮有信心 让30万美军定居小岛哈
8 b+ F9 N0 u5 Q; R. W( O& w' m这小子认为 ANDY 选择了"bridge too far".  看来这厮是要乘机把ANDY的血放尽啊 就是不知道 是否也会让蝗军也把血流尽: {9 A3 _0 n% W& e% z
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[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 16:21 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

有好戏看了 为ＡＮＤＹ的承受力喝彩 ) x5 R# y* l" X' U* I

" p1 e& n( _! O& U. JI feel I now have no choice its all or nothing.
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8 n' c1 S2 A) z8 Dmy carriers are moving extremely slowly despite being undamaged but will all be back at Wake tomorrow within the next 3 days the entire fleet will sail to death or glory I cannot leave 300,000 men on Tinian every ship I can muster is going in - I MUST secure naval superiority over the Marianas so the orders are given.
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All carriers will be setting sail after they have fueled the crippled Hornet will be going in with the fleet - in total 6 Fleet, 3 Light and about 25 Escort Carriers covered by 8 BB's and every destroyer I can find.
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This is it death or glory....
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+ Y5 ?! Y# V2 ?9 ?1 Y接下来是ＴＦ５８的最期，抑或联合舰队的末日？ " Y' `! Z* N, D/ }
各位下注吧　ＰＡＵＫ要逆天了吗

talentpanzer

是44年5月
, R' k3 |( F) s5 Z# v" j+ ~TF58据说是8BB ,6CV,3CVL,25CVE     要独立对抗KB(至今只损失1条CVE!)+12BB(可能大和在修)+无数陆航  唉  加油 盟军!
  D, y4 G% K2 S+ y" ]# f2 M9 n43年中还形势大好,就在43年末到44年让PAUK桑翻盘了!6 A" S' U. z! u+ S0 i7 J2 k
不过FREESTYLE不断削弱美军CV ,44年CV决战的梦想,看来还是可能的
: r2 F4 S$ l+ H当然,我也同意包子的说法,只要ANDY指挥,impossible is nothing!' A7 J; s1 T2 x) @0 W+ _6 f

9 [% F* E% ~8 h2 h[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-18 21:23 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

哈哈哈哈哈阿哈哈啊哈哈哈哈哈
5 \4 b* L7 `4 ^: P  u" X! T2 sANDY在打一盘很大的麻将

talentpanzer

ANDY要拼啦
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9 w2 c6 i0 [9 T. u) h7 E- j5 \( g5 Fresh CVE's from West Coast will bring me fully up to strength with where I was a few days ago.
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  Y7 ?8 P8 E- T. b: W: T# K9 O  Z7 s" BAll 5 CV's will have 40 F6F's and 36 F4U's or 80 F6F's
. {% Q3 a8 p5 R# Y; e: ~# p. a3 CVL's will have 21 F6F's and 9 TBM's ! l* E* I. e2 J- T7 @& c) p
Hornet will have 90 Helldivers.
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I should have about 20 CVE's total so about capacity for 600 aircraft.
5 t, q* r2 y7 O, o9 u7 \$ [3 will operate F6F NF's total of 72.
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: h6 _3 d6 w8 Y( FBy stripping Saratoga of Hellcats and ditching the replenishment groups I should be able to allocate about another 150 to the CVE's
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All other berths will be filled with strike aircraft.
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In total I will have 108 F4U's, 72 F6F NF's and about 450 F6F's I am not commiting any Wildcats with the fleet I cannot afford the pilot losses. . |- p  Q1 m. G3 T

) d! R6 f% J# aThe only reason I can do this is the 200 I did not commit in the first phase. ! I8 A2 n7 k7 m- u' ]2 q+ P

' a" w8 H3 `' ]Missispi sailed from Pearl to join the fleet at Wake.
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* J* x4 e) D; B/ I0 M- H+ c7 s3 rSo what is the plan well its simple SEEK out and DESTROY KB.
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I cannot even attempt to fight Jap LBA while KB is a threat I am therefore going to hunt KB down and destroy it if it refuses to come and fight then I will use massed bombardment TF's on Tinian until it does. 4 c( F# z% s) N/ r
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My replenishment groups are in reasonable shape still so fuel and ammo are not an issue. / y; g3 n8 z- W$ Y. @: v

0 G* [& E) W0 M) lThis is it guys no messing straight down the middle cannons to the left cannons to the right etc etc
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. V3 o0 o0 h5 j% Q+ WIn two days the fleet sails and it WILL rescue the allied armies on Tinian whatever the cost.
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100多架海盗  TMD !/ }+ M4 Y% a1 q& _# F* M9 S
加上450架F6F  72架F6F NF
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8 o4 z: O& \; m) h) ~[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-19 21:11 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

据说先前约定 在神风之前不把海军陆站队的海盗上CV
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; A7 l. `6 t3 bAfter we get through this I will be entering negotiations - historically 10 Sqns of Marine Corsairs served on USN ships - Pauk and I had a deal with regard to use of these 10 Sqns AFTER Kamis became active - I will be seeking acceleration of this deployment but NOT until after we finish the mariana campaign one way or the other.

talentpanzer

最新进展
8 c$ ]3 \, n) x44年产5月23日- _) [1 P' F8 _
PAUK桑在TINIAN 附近，海空力量联合绞杀，一日击沉敌船54条以上！
8 {5 U. x3 d+ ]+ @3 r8 b: u至今，日军已在Mariana 海域击沉285条敌船其中运输船150艘！不过PAUK自己也在问：8 m$ `: M3 d) j& ~( n+ E0 `
I'm finishing the job. 54 more enemy ships are sunk today - just checked how many ships Andy lost in Marians campaign: 285 so far! App 150 of them are transports, and so far Andy lost 300-400 transports. Question for the AFBs - will that hurt Allied transport capabilities?

talentpanzer

43年5月24日8 H8 l  c; \9 s
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One more good turn for the Empire - 49 enemy ships more are now on the list! My subs and SC TFs did the main job there - enemy ships now fleeing in single TFs but my raiders intercepted them several times! Tone TF was very successful - 11 enemy ships are sunk in the night interception. BANZAI!
" q1 N+ Z& H9 f7 K( a& c/ i% f今天PAUK的CA队横扫麻里亚纳！ 盟军又被击沉49艘  大家都麻木了吧
: F7 B! m2 i7 H9 Y7 X提尼安附近盟军船只 几乎被清空了
3 y1 C$ D3 G# W5 e可气的是连日本陆航都拿无辜商船做训练靶子了  是可忍 孰不可忍！ “快去告诉罗斯福，ANDY是叛徒！”
( _) ^+ i; p2 h1 g8 Z7 n* u+ Q2 SWhy not train Franks while we have time? Strike from Marians (red arrows showing day air attacks).
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1 E9 r2 R1 j8 l# {4 X% f4 o+ a: sDay Air attack on TF at 67,64
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Japanese aircraft
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* Z% x% X8 {) V1 M[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2007-9-20 15:16 编辑 ]

talentpanzer

这倒是错怪ＡＮＤＹ了
  J, b8 `$ R& i  b- g他和ＰＡＵＫ都提到了盟军的Ｆ６都上舰了！ （连夜战型都上了）
, G/ q' z+ F4 c而ＡＮＤＹ又不想让飞行员开ＦＭ２去送死　
* S/ M3 B; [/ O0 Z所以．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．