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你理解错了,他是说他的经验,作为日军,一盘到01/43,一盘在44获胜
sp 开吧!
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建议这次像官网类似得详细aar (任务重啊 )
我来翻吧,做点贡献,翻得不好请指正
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Hi
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0 ?8 D  e. o- r+ O) L' u0 LI have checked proposed scenario and I would stick with standard chs if possible. There is a lot of changes and i am not sure about playability - chs has been tested intensively even in late war.
/ \- b4 r& P/ M1 m7 B" `我(对方)考虑了biku提议的剧本,我坚持使用chs标准剧本(难道开始提议的是浆糊的剧本?). 因为这个剧本(我方提议的剧本)有不少改变,我不确定可玩性-----chs已经被很好的测试过了.6 y4 d8 K3 ~( A& A9 ]% `

6 v/ `7 U) j0 k: D3 oWitp definitely favor Japan in ship and plane building, I think no need enhance this difference.) c) J3 E- A8 F3 Y
Witp 无疑在船和飞机的建造上照顾了日本,所以我觉得无需再增强日本了.
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There is my HR list. Almost everything is negotiable. I want play Allied, and almost all HR favor Japan - they purpose is a balance game.6 b4 S( k- Y# P  S1 c# k
以下是我的房规(HR),可以讨论.我希望玩盟军,这个房规是比较倾向于日方的-------为了游戏的平衡.& ^) X/ X, Z8 C
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Hi Matthew, (这个我没看懂,难道是两封信? 怎么中间来了个hi?)
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, K! C5 y0 g  R5 k: U; s" AThere is my HR list. It is my attempt to be closer to RL and still having fun from game... I am open to discussion. I play two games now, 1/43 and 2/44, so the HR represent my experience. HR can not cover everything – soundness is the most important. Play as you think Allied commander would do...
9 X5 i2 b( ?! b$ i- _: k这是房规, 我的目的是为了接近实际(RL 我猜是 real life)并保持游戏的趣味. 房规可以进一步讨论. 我现在正在玩两盘游戏, 1/43, 2/44, 房规代表了我从我经历的观点.房规并不全面----- 公平是最重要的. 我们玩的时候要考虑到盟军指挥官实际怎么作战的(翻得不好,就是不要gamey,要真实的意思)* [9 ]- X1 Y; A1 K% O7 V% D) l1 O

9 [3 g2 R* G9 k9 a, M# R1 U6 a# eDay 1 第一天
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# K! J9 C/ m: N, n: [1.No attack on CV.
4 {0 z9 J9 V" f; F7 I不许攻击CV
4 q' @( F5 S5 m* E6 r% t1 z2.Only 1 port attack.   q' V, T& O2 ]7 C5 W" P
只能攻击1个港口
! N2 R9 o# l* K7 y3.Only 2 attack on PH during the first couple of days, then at least two weeks no attacks.
$ m! w4 U2 u* h) w8 y2 F( l) c7 m在最初的几天只能对PH攻击两次,然后2周之内不能再次攻击.8 l, [, N3 \: A  b! e
4. Only realistic movement on day one (no PM, Pago Pago or Amboina landings).0 m# h. R! A! b/ F  T4 R* k
第一天只能作可能的移动(不许在莫尔思比,爬过爬过或安文登陆)! g9 W. p: {, ]; b" {
5.Allied player can only change orders in china.( Y6 D" [8 y4 e/ B! B  g! \% S* f
第一天盟军只能在中国下命令4 \) A- i  c* e) L

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1. Russia must warned one week before invasion (i.e. declare war and wait one week).
- R- y9 m1 w* S入侵苏联要提前一周通知,即激活一周内不战
2 R6 Y& k2 o) K5 i- y2.Allied pilots must come from pool. If the pool is empty, unexperienced pilot can not be taken. Chinese, Dutch and Russian pilots can do that.8 D3 V& I. t' U( ?. \: c! z. u- d$ N
除了中国 荷兰 苏联以外,盟军飞行员必须从补充池内来,不许用菜鸟, t& [9 ?0 G+ C6 G! u2 Q
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3呢?
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/ k7 I) v: f- p1 e. v0 c1 e0 u4. Allied units can be landed only from TF with at least one half AP or landing crafts.
5 }: a6 u7 k  u, A% X: j* h6 x盟军登陆的运输TF至少有一半是AP或专门的登陆设备./ l8 J9 L4 Q9 X6 q5 l
5.Dutch and PHI units must have replacement off, if they have not any city with size 3+. Timor is not considered as Dutch territory. & r) D7 I( D9 P9 s) f
荷兰和菲律宾部队要关闭补充,除非在3级以上基地. 帝文不认为是荷兰领土(这个有什么影响?).6 K+ Z  L- s9 j" _4 `$ }4 f1 J# G+ V
6.If Burma road is cut by Jap unit(s), all Chinese units out of china must be set as No replacements.
/ ]7 w3 s8 e9 W, S如果缅甸的公路被日军切断,中国远征军就必须关闭补给.
" {9 j. p. S3 x+ Z! Q7.No mining from planes. {* M* r% |; F! w5 `
不许飞机布雷
3 _: C3 S8 c' t! R' B! ?- `2 f9 g8. When the base is captured, AF can be used after the same number of days as AF size.+ M. t4 d- ]3 [4 _) ^
一个n级基地被占领后,其机场要在n天后才能起用.: V( M) Y2 v2 y( R( B" |
9. If atoll is occupied and Japanese units are still present, the AF can not be used.
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10.Only base or dot could be place for landing (same paras). * W: Y9 V% a1 l6 Q+ r) x$ ]
只有基地和尚未成为基地的"点"可以登陆或空降4 S5 g0 E8 A# o6 g' M2 L: O
11. No sub commandos.9 S* z) ]: @5 d
禁止潜艇登陆3 M0 \% e8 ^# z) Q9 p% k
12.Paras can attack only as whole unit.
3 @3 ]( Q$ u/ ?8 C伞兵要整支部队使用
( z  B6 @+ m4 \3 J9 b16.The shift of units using HQ change is banned./ W8 N; F8 ?. I9 U' x5 O3 }9 ?; G
不许靠改属调动部队
0 Z* u; ~6 [  G/ Z& E8 f! n. w17.Units in Mandzukuo must have at least 8000AS
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18.Jap units in China could be used only there, if china is not occupied. The same for Chinese units (Indochina is considered as China).( c1 S' i0 T$ I: ]" v8 U- x9 k! N
如果中国战场没有解决,中国派遣军不能调作他用.同样中国军队也需遵守.(中南半岛可以算作中国区域)& K$ O5 @* n4 {* N+ \1 Q
19.Chinese troops under SEA command can be used only in Barma.# _) _' `; R8 P9 ~4 o% d
东南亚司令部下辖的中国军队只能在缅甸作战(译者:撤退到印度行不行?).# J7 W! _2 D" d1 O- {" R4 ^
20.4E minimum naval attack altitude is 15000 stop.
8 E9 w6 ]3 J( ]- }! D4发对海15000以上
- @( P( L- Z6 }& [) p- G, H- p! P21.No upgrade 2E to 4E with exception of Bolo planes.
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22.4E can attack from China from July 1943; no city attack on chinese towns.6 n( P0 j; z4 Z! z/ {
7/43后4e才能在中国作战,不能轰炸中国城市(应该是指战略轰炸)0 d+ a# [( Y9 q
23.No 4E naval attacks after 1942.
0 R0 J; {9 [4 d1 V' D1942年以后4e不能对海( c4 ?5 Q# \6 F# I- K' n$ ?
24.If the dot base is 0/0, AF and port could be expanded only to size 1.
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25.Max number of planes is 50xAF size and 30xAF size on atoll.& ~9 N( W3 I2 O: d2 I
最大飞机数量限制:一般基地乘50,环礁乘30' u% i; d9 V+ |1 s% }! s  G4 C) @/ X
26.PT boats could be constructed only in ports 5+. Max number of PT operating in one hex is 12.) _& }/ A5 F8 n6 ]1 S; Z( M
5级以上港口才能建PT,一格最多12艘  c* j/ r# ]/ l' j/ r: G9 S
27.ASW TF max 6 ships.& C8 `3 u& n2 i3 W
反潜编队最多6艘船
5 u- W4 h/ a7 W, v- HCheck it and let me know.
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[ 本帖最后由 zhengxuacmilan 于 2007-11-30 09:47 编辑 ]

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根据day 1 第4条,我觉得他的意思是不能这么做的
Tomik在官网上id是不是Tomikcm?
6 d% X# N/ c& Q; h9 H感觉这个规则对盟军限制不少啊 hehe
16条是确实有问题
( X0 c; Z/ \& u  I; m1 O' E24我的理解是潜力状态为0/0
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还是回信确认一下

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我以前在官网上看过一些aar开头的介绍9 ?9 m& D  I5 s; t8 i- i
他们自称非历史开局为quasi-historical, - T. \6 I# {0 k1 ^
第一天日军只能攻击历史上第一天被攻击的地方,也就包括PH 马来 PHi, 和中太的一些岛屿.
4 ^6 @$ I& D/ ]* y) P6 v9 P, b盟军第一天只能移动中国的部队(似乎还有西海岸的海军)
原帖由 chars 于 2007-11-30 09:14 发表 ' ^6 Z0 D8 A9 T5 Y
第四条翻译可能有些不大准确
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7 A! W6 ^0 ^4 k5 q8 g7 f" A( \他的意思应该是4 y4 {6 @4 y% y
盟军登陆必须使用一半的AP或者是用于登陆的技术装备(这里应该指的是后期的盟军步兵和坦克登陆舰)
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对的.我当时可能把craft看成aircraft了...
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第5条我当时看不是很理解
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你的翻译应该是对的,
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