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你理解错了,他是说他的经验,作为日军,一盘到01/43,一盘在44获胜
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又有得观战了
& [: q' h, {) k  w& V7 M7 T建议这次像官网类似得详细aar (任务重啊 )
我来翻吧,做点贡献,翻得不好请指正
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$ R! s# f/ E- r% U$ WI have checked proposed scenario and I would stick with standard chs if possible. There is a lot of changes and i am not sure about playability - chs has been tested intensively even in late war.
" m0 o, b* `3 ~- J- w我(对方)考虑了biku提议的剧本,我坚持使用chs标准剧本(难道开始提议的是浆糊的剧本?). 因为这个剧本(我方提议的剧本)有不少改变,我不确定可玩性-----chs已经被很好的测试过了.
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0 P7 |% J6 k4 m/ [Witp definitely favor Japan in ship and plane building, I think no need enhance this difference.0 E$ o" h& F6 f7 i0 a# k. {
Witp 无疑在船和飞机的建造上照顾了日本,所以我觉得无需再增强日本了.
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+ O8 y; }/ @0 o, Z6 n! EThere is my HR list. Almost everything is negotiable. I want play Allied, and almost all HR favor Japan - they purpose is a balance game.! P, B4 f3 V& D$ e* T5 f
以下是我的房规(HR),可以讨论.我希望玩盟军,这个房规是比较倾向于日方的-------为了游戏的平衡.
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* {$ T1 z+ g* u( U( Y: {/ IHi Matthew, (这个我没看懂,难道是两封信? 怎么中间来了个hi?)
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There is my HR list. It is my attempt to be closer to RL and still having fun from game... I am open to discussion. I play two games now, 1/43 and 2/44, so the HR represent my experience. HR can not cover everything – soundness is the most important. Play as you think Allied commander would do.... S! V8 C& m! I2 F4 J" y! q7 s5 n
这是房规, 我的目的是为了接近实际(RL 我猜是 real life)并保持游戏的趣味. 房规可以进一步讨论. 我现在正在玩两盘游戏, 1/43, 2/44, 房规代表了我从我经历的观点.房规并不全面----- 公平是最重要的. 我们玩的时候要考虑到盟军指挥官实际怎么作战的(翻得不好,就是不要gamey,要真实的意思)
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Day 1 第一天+ |( }6 R9 n& }* W$ w5 x

4 F2 Q  Y  E2 R& O1.No attack on CV.
+ R: i/ D6 F( Q6 Z2 h不许攻击CV" _& o6 A' E( s: E1 y
2.Only 1 port attack.
. O/ [9 J: o/ E+ p只能攻击1个港口
6 Y! K4 V5 i' U6 T6 H# h3.Only 2 attack on PH during the first couple of days, then at least two weeks no attacks.& R4 v) T+ {/ r+ O" C! v$ |
在最初的几天只能对PH攻击两次,然后2周之内不能再次攻击.- X" i2 k! H: ^8 U  P& T8 |
4. Only realistic movement on day one (no PM, Pago Pago or Amboina landings).
6 o# Z7 |. l; ]+ f0 [5 k. z/ @第一天只能作可能的移动(不许在莫尔思比,爬过爬过或安文登陆)$ A3 K  S: Z5 D3 _9 }
5.Allied player can only change orders in china.* t' K# E- D, K4 S
第一天盟军只能在中国下命令
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1. Russia must warned one week before invasion (i.e. declare war and wait one week).5 s' e% F& `0 u
入侵苏联要提前一周通知,即激活一周内不战
  ?2 a& T1 w3 x8 o$ F: P2.Allied pilots must come from pool. If the pool is empty, unexperienced pilot can not be taken. Chinese, Dutch and Russian pilots can do that.
6 W5 n! S: }# ^! Z* S! r6 b除了中国 荷兰 苏联以外,盟军飞行员必须从补充池内来,不许用菜鸟9 P1 Y5 h/ Q% c) {
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3呢?
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  e& @' r! _( r% b( U' Y) G, I4. Allied units can be landed only from TF with at least one half AP or landing crafts.
7 m, [, o( l% J9 K/ k" S# m盟军登陆的运输TF至少有一半是AP或专门的登陆设备.
7 M+ E2 X3 V5 W8 O9 n$ c5.Dutch and PHI units must have replacement off, if they have not any city with size 3+. Timor is not considered as Dutch territory.
) p" C' O5 {: A, K荷兰和菲律宾部队要关闭补充,除非在3级以上基地. 帝文不认为是荷兰领土(这个有什么影响?).
9 V; e3 m. x# D) U" |4 a6.If Burma road is cut by Jap unit(s), all Chinese units out of china must be set as No replacements.
0 x/ J" T9 |8 {0 ~4 m如果缅甸的公路被日军切断,中国远征军就必须关闭补给." g: G0 K' Z7 N. \, _6 l
7.No mining from planes
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% n& Y9 ]6 D4 N! d" L8. When the base is captured, AF can be used after the same number of days as AF size.
6 p$ o  F2 B/ ~" {* T8 H& f/ s2 C一个n级基地被占领后,其机场要在n天后才能起用.% ^+ [1 K6 l# v% o
9. If atoll is occupied and Japanese units are still present, the AF can not be used.8 o$ V+ ]# ~" i, A  G) `
环礁被占领而且日军部队仍未被清除,环礁机场不能使用.1 n- l9 R- Z2 g8 G
10.Only base or dot could be place for landing (same paras). 9 g: @1 T( i5 j! w/ |
只有基地和尚未成为基地的"点"可以登陆或空降0 t+ p7 E5 ?! n8 X" q9 j! \
11. No sub commandos.2 G4 n- \+ w, g
禁止潜艇登陆2 H+ z; E+ N' W# b
12.Paras can attack only as whole unit.& Z8 b$ k$ M0 q/ m0 ~
伞兵要整支部队使用2 j9 d: b- M! z& ]* I6 y
16.The shift of units using HQ change is banned.
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0 e/ ?) U; o  v1 A17.Units in Mandzukuo must have at least 8000AS, ~! h7 S0 K7 d% o- ?' I* m7 Q
满洲部队不能低于8000
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如果中国战场没有解决,中国派遣军不能调作他用.同样中国军队也需遵守.(中南半岛可以算作中国区域)
/ r! y9 @& ]1 A. q; r19.Chinese troops under SEA command can be used only in Barma., Y3 \& l7 g% g
东南亚司令部下辖的中国军队只能在缅甸作战(译者:撤退到印度行不行?).
" m7 M* d( |! t  d20.4E minimum naval attack altitude is 15000 stop.
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8 n5 D9 J- H& L4 V3 _6 h21.No upgrade 2E to 4E with exception of Bolo planes.: f4 v4 ~3 p# ~- F; Y5 p7 w! ^
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22.4E can attack from China from July 1943; no city attack on chinese towns.7 f3 K2 l6 H% z+ X
7/43后4e才能在中国作战,不能轰炸中国城市(应该是指战略轰炸)
. d/ Y0 v+ R* Y+ g23.No 4E naval attacks after 1942.
! y; v. m0 j" m. p1 E. h1942年以后4e不能对海
6 z0 ]5 m' x& M7 r6 v( ^0 S24.If the dot base is 0/0, AF and port could be expanded only to size 1.7 l% ~8 ^, h3 e8 `( ~- D9 \
尚未升级成基地的"点",其机场和港口只能升级成1级
) b4 O, S, \! A+ B+ x25.Max number of planes is 50xAF size and 30xAF size on atoll.! D* Z. ?5 d1 @8 H
最大飞机数量限制:一般基地乘50,环礁乘30
$ i( N& E( E# B1 a  W2 D26.PT boats could be constructed only in ports 5+. Max number of PT operating in one hex is 12.  _  J: o" s$ Q3 _3 y
5级以上港口才能建PT,一格最多12艘
# P2 D) h; O: \- H27.ASW TF max 6 ships.
3 |( u+ U- _% S反潜编队最多6艘船
  q4 C- X! q* g1 W1 O, oCheck it and let me know.
7 v# x# S/ F& \7 ]; u9 B4 t6 J检查并告诉我你的意见
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Tomik
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[ 本帖最后由 zhengxuacmilan 于 2007-11-30 09:47 编辑 ]

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根据day 1 第4条,我觉得他的意思是不能这么做的
Tomik在官网上id是不是Tomikcm?# B# j8 V1 K9 _  N1 d# C+ x! q
感觉这个规则对盟军限制不少啊 hehe
16条是确实有问题
" D4 n# k( R' T, a+ R) X# ^24我的理解是潜力状态为0/0% n8 E! m7 R0 s6 _2 E* T
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还是回信确认一下

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我以前在官网上看过一些aar开头的介绍/ k: N$ X% T$ n4 C: b- _
他们自称非历史开局为quasi-historical, 5 O0 j& a* z. ^. |* a
第一天日军只能攻击历史上第一天被攻击的地方,也就包括PH 马来 PHi, 和中太的一些岛屿.
7 w, r, w1 Z' u盟军第一天只能移动中国的部队(似乎还有西海岸的海军)
原帖由 chars 于 2007-11-30 09:14 发表
9 h9 _9 a* g, V- R8 U第四条翻译可能有些不大准确
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他的意思应该是
; A. u  D2 |, H8 [' \8 b+ e盟军登陆必须使用一半的AP或者是用于登陆的技术装备(这里应该指的是后期的盟军步兵和坦克登陆舰)
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4 F" M; x/ o5 i1 L2 f对的.我当时可能把craft看成aircraft了...
! X3 D' n$ C6 {1 r: e8 _原文修改了

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第5条我当时看不是很理解9 B& p: p9 L7 Q9 u8 ], q
现在大概明白用意了,0 N/ W0 ]4 S; e( I  e( W: r
你的翻译应该是对的,
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