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你理解错了,他是说他的经验,作为日军,一盘到01/43,一盘在44获胜
sp 开吧!0 S2 o" n8 o/ e; @! f( S3 w8 g
又有得观战了
4 \! @, x- T/ f) B' J+ q+ L建议这次像官网类似得详细aar (任务重啊 )
我来翻吧,做点贡献,翻得不好请指正
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I have checked proposed scenario and I would stick with standard chs if possible. There is a lot of changes and i am not sure about playability - chs has been tested intensively even in late war.+ P0 Z4 Z1 B! ?+ y
我(对方)考虑了biku提议的剧本,我坚持使用chs标准剧本(难道开始提议的是浆糊的剧本?). 因为这个剧本(我方提议的剧本)有不少改变,我不确定可玩性-----chs已经被很好的测试过了.$ l9 o* e% t1 O6 a" |
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Witp definitely favor Japan in ship and plane building, I think no need enhance this difference.
0 K% L5 L& a0 R, eWitp 无疑在船和飞机的建造上照顾了日本,所以我觉得无需再增强日本了." ]! p" _. `9 P; V
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There is my HR list. Almost everything is negotiable. I want play Allied, and almost all HR favor Japan - they purpose is a balance game.: t9 f- P+ u) c* U4 h9 {
以下是我的房规(HR),可以讨论.我希望玩盟军,这个房规是比较倾向于日方的-------为了游戏的平衡./ U/ Q% w- a1 l/ Y) s
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Hi Matthew, (这个我没看懂,难道是两封信? 怎么中间来了个hi?)3 @% @7 Q; w1 L0 d" b

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There is my HR list. It is my attempt to be closer to RL and still having fun from game... I am open to discussion. I play two games now, 1/43 and 2/44, so the HR represent my experience. HR can not cover everything – soundness is the most important. Play as you think Allied commander would do...: j6 C3 {8 S* {# L4 R1 r" a9 n7 {/ x
这是房规, 我的目的是为了接近实际(RL 我猜是 real life)并保持游戏的趣味. 房规可以进一步讨论. 我现在正在玩两盘游戏, 1/43, 2/44, 房规代表了我从我经历的观点.房规并不全面----- 公平是最重要的. 我们玩的时候要考虑到盟军指挥官实际怎么作战的(翻得不好,就是不要gamey,要真实的意思)0 E% h4 ^6 d7 P& ~7 u. q3 l

, T# N$ |5 k) }, \( X" P9 [* ODay 1 第一天
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& l& @7 m! j; e3 o0 ?' Z7 O1.No attack on CV. " L/ u* l% U: I! |! V% _1 x3 S: s) Y: D% l6 \
不许攻击CV! x: k3 H5 S' s2 a
2.Only 1 port attack.
1 ~! i# \' ~; ^' b8 _4 }只能攻击1个港口
. D( C* N/ \# T# p: W+ w3.Only 2 attack on PH during the first couple of days, then at least two weeks no attacks.5 @/ B" Y$ p% M
在最初的几天只能对PH攻击两次,然后2周之内不能再次攻击.
# q! t! B: q9 o2 ~0 w1 Z4. Only realistic movement on day one (no PM, Pago Pago or Amboina landings).
$ ]3 v! M* @5 ]2 N9 l第一天只能作可能的移动(不许在莫尔思比,爬过爬过或安文登陆), y1 s3 ]3 y6 y5 c, X6 G( @
5.Allied player can only change orders in china.' m" }( G: }  n+ D  ?- K! M
第一天盟军只能在中国下命令4 Z1 f! @! I, C; r0 F; i+ U6 g
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" q( u1 N$ ?/ s; s/ k$ i  c: Y& ]1. Russia must warned one week before invasion (i.e. declare war and wait one week).# e- M; p  C4 S6 J0 s
入侵苏联要提前一周通知,即激活一周内不战
: Q+ v7 v! l8 x2.Allied pilots must come from pool. If the pool is empty, unexperienced pilot can not be taken. Chinese, Dutch and Russian pilots can do that.9 [; C9 w# r1 _5 G
除了中国 荷兰 苏联以外,盟军飞行员必须从补充池内来,不许用菜鸟- ^0 d. e$ k$ a& d8 _

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3 d, ^' [* ^8 I3 r" T4. Allied units can be landed only from TF with at least one half AP or landing crafts.
7 T* V) y/ i( G6 c9 g4 Z盟军登陆的运输TF至少有一半是AP或专门的登陆设备.
, B" G: L6 G6 ?7 l& d" {" b5.Dutch and PHI units must have replacement off, if they have not any city with size 3+. Timor is not considered as Dutch territory. - m+ I# |3 u$ _4 W4 n* e# ~: d0 z
荷兰和菲律宾部队要关闭补充,除非在3级以上基地. 帝文不认为是荷兰领土(这个有什么影响?).
  U, F2 ~: _2 P6.If Burma road is cut by Jap unit(s), all Chinese units out of china must be set as No replacements.; w6 [9 z8 c) V
如果缅甸的公路被日军切断,中国远征军就必须关闭补给.* m+ m" }. @) `9 ~' T: V3 ]/ N
7.No mining from planes
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8. When the base is captured, AF can be used after the same number of days as AF size.' S5 U  f5 V" p
一个n级基地被占领后,其机场要在n天后才能起用.
3 s/ _$ _/ P  ?8 R% _9. If atoll is occupied and Japanese units are still present, the AF can not be used.$ Y$ W" d8 m* H; P7 ^
环礁被占领而且日军部队仍未被清除,环礁机场不能使用.
" ~% k8 A! f9 ]8 K1 W1 [10.Only base or dot could be place for landing (same paras).
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11. No sub commandos.
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12.Paras can attack only as whole unit.! o+ _! J) g2 K: c$ u  Q: z: f, v
伞兵要整支部队使用
( X# L& o2 W6 p1 g3 D0 f16.The shift of units using HQ change is banned.
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17.Units in Mandzukuo must have at least 8000AS
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18.Jap units in China could be used only there, if china is not occupied. The same for Chinese units (Indochina is considered as China).
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19.Chinese troops under SEA command can be used only in Barma.# z1 M" V( ^& Z' i
东南亚司令部下辖的中国军队只能在缅甸作战(译者:撤退到印度行不行?).( I5 O. Q! H& p. m' t
20.4E minimum naval attack altitude is 15000 stop.
( v: R, m2 \& C* E4发对海15000以上
/ S2 T, v; D" [% B: c: G21.No upgrade 2E to 4E with exception of Bolo planes.
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7/43后4e才能在中国作战,不能轰炸中国城市(应该是指战略轰炸)/ B7 `+ @/ o# c' a  y3 R
23.No 4E naval attacks after 1942.
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% R3 ^" D; {. t: M6 @* S# B; u) i; o24.If the dot base is 0/0, AF and port could be expanded only to size 1.9 u  p! h- {- x
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25.Max number of planes is 50xAF size and 30xAF size on atoll.
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) @  X; U* X7 m6 Q( d9 j) j26.PT boats could be constructed only in ports 5+. Max number of PT operating in one hex is 12.
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0 @4 ?% h! C" |5 V9 V5 L27.ASW TF max 6 ships.' R+ k. B: C+ y" y
反潜编队最多6艘船
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+ G- k7 C8 D9 y& |5 G[ 本帖最后由 zhengxuacmilan 于 2007-11-30 09:47 编辑 ]

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根据day 1 第4条,我觉得他的意思是不能这么做的
Tomik在官网上id是不是Tomikcm?$ x  r/ X! a' G; G$ V% z
感觉这个规则对盟军限制不少啊 hehe
16条是确实有问题
$ L3 A+ J4 _. s' p1 R0 V+ D24我的理解是潜力状态为0/0
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我以前在官网上看过一些aar开头的介绍
, h6 a" a  o( S他们自称非历史开局为quasi-historical, 5 G+ ~$ x( [: Q* P- C
第一天日军只能攻击历史上第一天被攻击的地方,也就包括PH 马来 PHi, 和中太的一些岛屿.- \! }7 |7 w& H$ Q  W& M
盟军第一天只能移动中国的部队(似乎还有西海岸的海军)
原帖由 chars 于 2007-11-30 09:14 发表
& [- \7 j1 F2 N5 n% S- w; N. o第四条翻译可能有些不大准确  K* [# S3 z: x! Z. R( m
没有涉及到空降
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5 ^# s6 M. O) W# n4 t  f- e: Q+ [他的意思应该是
2 c( S( Z6 |6 w" m盟军登陆必须使用一半的AP或者是用于登陆的技术装备(这里应该指的是后期的盟军步兵和坦克登陆舰)
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原文修改了

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第5条我当时看不是很理解
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. Y7 N8 \0 d+ {- S- D你的翻译应该是对的,
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