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你理解错了,他是说他的经验,作为日军,一盘到01/43,一盘在44获胜
sp 开吧!5 d, G1 g$ M; U
又有得观战了
" ^7 Y2 P' G- c1 W建议这次像官网类似得详细aar (任务重啊 )
我来翻吧,做点贡献,翻得不好请指正  I1 E8 [0 A5 |- T4 z

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I have checked proposed scenario and I would stick with standard chs if possible. There is a lot of changes and i am not sure about playability - chs has been tested intensively even in late war.
& e0 E1 a# {. R; z$ L6 ?" ^我(对方)考虑了biku提议的剧本,我坚持使用chs标准剧本(难道开始提议的是浆糊的剧本?). 因为这个剧本(我方提议的剧本)有不少改变,我不确定可玩性-----chs已经被很好的测试过了.8 f) ~0 w" n& `. o3 `* E1 q
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Witp definitely favor Japan in ship and plane building, I think no need enhance this difference.
/ {2 g2 b0 k6 s" bWitp 无疑在船和飞机的建造上照顾了日本,所以我觉得无需再增强日本了.
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There is my HR list. Almost everything is negotiable. I want play Allied, and almost all HR favor Japan - they purpose is a balance game.
! R. _4 ~* _" h7 j以下是我的房规(HR),可以讨论.我希望玩盟军,这个房规是比较倾向于日方的-------为了游戏的平衡.
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/ M; M$ D' c: m; p' P! Q, @* d+ ]Hi Matthew, (这个我没看懂,难道是两封信? 怎么中间来了个hi?): \9 k3 Z# P1 G" l) \3 v
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There is my HR list. It is my attempt to be closer to RL and still having fun from game... I am open to discussion. I play two games now, 1/43 and 2/44, so the HR represent my experience. HR can not cover everything – soundness is the most important. Play as you think Allied commander would do...$ H* y+ F* z! k' }1 G. z' l% m
这是房规, 我的目的是为了接近实际(RL 我猜是 real life)并保持游戏的趣味. 房规可以进一步讨论. 我现在正在玩两盘游戏, 1/43, 2/44, 房规代表了我从我经历的观点.房规并不全面----- 公平是最重要的. 我们玩的时候要考虑到盟军指挥官实际怎么作战的(翻得不好,就是不要gamey,要真实的意思)
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Day 1 第一天
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1.No attack on CV.
5 R) S. `9 B" d2 v不许攻击CV
& J2 @% s5 T: z9 I5 k$ U( B1 ]4 |2.Only 1 port attack. ! s  T1 v7 l0 D1 w) Z! y7 C* C
只能攻击1个港口% y5 y( k/ L3 ?3 D4 J
3.Only 2 attack on PH during the first couple of days, then at least two weeks no attacks.
' [- j& h! w" w$ ^在最初的几天只能对PH攻击两次,然后2周之内不能再次攻击.
% c% F- O, C" ^. l* R7 ?4. Only realistic movement on day one (no PM, Pago Pago or Amboina landings).
% Y6 y- J: _9 [# P, {1 \第一天只能作可能的移动(不许在莫尔思比,爬过爬过或安文登陆)
7 }  Q! D* e' C9 _- J9 @/ e" Q; s5.Allied player can only change orders in china.
0 `9 x7 d" w+ j3 h第一天盟军只能在中国下命令( H- w8 \2 q' w9 g
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HR
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, K" X) f# w' W5 J" i6 \1. Russia must warned one week before invasion (i.e. declare war and wait one week).4 Q( e$ {+ V! ]1 m
入侵苏联要提前一周通知,即激活一周内不战! [5 J$ s1 B0 ~1 r/ Z% f: y) `
2.Allied pilots must come from pool. If the pool is empty, unexperienced pilot can not be taken. Chinese, Dutch and Russian pilots can do that.
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3呢?
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4. Allied units can be landed only from TF with at least one half AP or landing crafts.8 @5 U+ p  t" o/ }
盟军登陆的运输TF至少有一半是AP或专门的登陆设备.
6 v! s% b( q. i5.Dutch and PHI units must have replacement off, if they have not any city with size 3+. Timor is not considered as Dutch territory. : y- {. i; T. f0 D9 C$ P0 a
荷兰和菲律宾部队要关闭补充,除非在3级以上基地. 帝文不认为是荷兰领土(这个有什么影响?).8 n! {+ v: ~- ]' `
6.If Burma road is cut by Jap unit(s), all Chinese units out of china must be set as No replacements.
8 n. D3 c. S. F9 L# c# {4 H如果缅甸的公路被日军切断,中国远征军就必须关闭补给.
9 e+ O8 o9 W* y: ~# v! U5 n4 C; n7.No mining from planes
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6 z. g) j$ q# \! |0 z6 q8. When the base is captured, AF can be used after the same number of days as AF size.  M4 h9 J+ a+ S1 N. j, S/ |( v
一个n级基地被占领后,其机场要在n天后才能起用.
! e- q, q  \( a# c% a2 ?9. If atoll is occupied and Japanese units are still present, the AF can not be used.) S& G: D. ~' X# K. R5 }
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10.Only base or dot could be place for landing (same paras). 0 P, R0 X, H) ?: H1 E8 Z0 n
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11. No sub commandos.
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12.Paras can attack only as whole unit.
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: U1 \1 _7 `1 U8 i9 Z4 |3 |& G16.The shift of units using HQ change is banned.0 k& O1 v6 v$ c& ?: T2 F; H
不许靠改属调动部队
! `( T* C5 f$ S7 E9 L17.Units in Mandzukuo must have at least 8000AS
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- @4 M9 i5 n; _; [% B) t18.Jap units in China could be used only there, if china is not occupied. The same for Chinese units (Indochina is considered as China).
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19.Chinese troops under SEA command can be used only in Barma.
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20.4E minimum naval attack altitude is 15000 stop.
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21.No upgrade 2E to 4E with exception of Bolo planes.( n, `2 j! W0 w; Z* c
2发不能升级成4发,除了开始的几个bolos飞行队
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23.No 4E naval attacks after 1942.4 R: O' S9 w9 v9 F
1942年以后4e不能对海
: W( i% p* H3 D& W, C2 Y24.If the dot base is 0/0, AF and port could be expanded only to size 1.6 B2 x6 ]% M* F: i8 U3 a3 J
尚未升级成基地的"点",其机场和港口只能升级成1级8 \8 W  E: v% X7 }: H; R: ]$ v
25.Max number of planes is 50xAF size and 30xAF size on atoll.
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8 R* [5 n" D* l26.PT boats could be constructed only in ports 5+. Max number of PT operating in one hex is 12.
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27.ASW TF max 6 ships., K- V6 ~3 t0 g6 q3 @& g' ^
反潜编队最多6艘船
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[ 本帖最后由 zhengxuacmilan 于 2007-11-30 09:47 编辑 ]

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根据day 1 第4条,我觉得他的意思是不能这么做的
Tomik在官网上id是不是Tomikcm?* |/ R; S9 C: x. v+ D
感觉这个规则对盟军限制不少啊 hehe
16条是确实有问题0 l2 n6 |( l5 V7 u+ |/ t" K
24我的理解是潜力状态为0/0
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我以前在官网上看过一些aar开头的介绍
+ {" f/ Q0 `" E他们自称非历史开局为quasi-historical, * o9 l8 W- e, z' f+ k, J
第一天日军只能攻击历史上第一天被攻击的地方,也就包括PH 马来 PHi, 和中太的一些岛屿.7 F7 U" P( t- k# a
盟军第一天只能移动中国的部队(似乎还有西海岸的海军)
原帖由 chars 于 2007-11-30 09:14 发表
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9 Y& F2 \' P5 c他的意思应该是5 S! y* l+ W3 |7 q) ~$ m
盟军登陆必须使用一半的AP或者是用于登陆的技术装备(这里应该指的是后期的盟军步兵和坦克登陆舰)
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对的.我当时可能把craft看成aircraft了..." X6 x8 L$ ~7 u! N& i# a) V7 m  y
原文修改了

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第5条我当时看不是很理解0 j( T% D+ R' X8 R4 n9 c
现在大概明白用意了,/ }$ G1 l& L+ z3 X5 c* E
你的翻译应该是对的,
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