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你理解错了,他是说他的经验,作为日军,一盘到01/43,一盘在44获胜
sp 开吧!
* R  o' `( M* j3 Z2 i9 ^: I又有得观战了
+ u$ T4 U4 n; p( S建议这次像官网类似得详细aar (任务重啊 )
我来翻吧,做点贡献,翻得不好请指正
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回信
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I have checked proposed scenario and I would stick with standard chs if possible. There is a lot of changes and i am not sure about playability - chs has been tested intensively even in late war.
1 I) Z. K9 s- [3 X我(对方)考虑了biku提议的剧本,我坚持使用chs标准剧本(难道开始提议的是浆糊的剧本?). 因为这个剧本(我方提议的剧本)有不少改变,我不确定可玩性-----chs已经被很好的测试过了.5 o/ p$ i1 A$ d( J; c7 n

( h: [- g# P- [) }3 y( nWitp definitely favor Japan in ship and plane building, I think no need enhance this difference.
3 |& h. w/ Z2 l( _! y! M( rWitp 无疑在船和飞机的建造上照顾了日本,所以我觉得无需再增强日本了.
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There is my HR list. Almost everything is negotiable. I want play Allied, and almost all HR favor Japan - they purpose is a balance game.
( C" I* c, F$ i' E: F, ^5 ?1 l9 F以下是我的房规(HR),可以讨论.我希望玩盟军,这个房规是比较倾向于日方的-------为了游戏的平衡.7 m! `5 ~/ {( z) O8 t' A2 f3 W

/ _3 d& A7 A( mHi Matthew, (这个我没看懂,难道是两封信? 怎么中间来了个hi?)' `  M$ U; ?! `& Y* ~

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; [( {; u) @1 m: UThere is my HR list. It is my attempt to be closer to RL and still having fun from game... I am open to discussion. I play two games now, 1/43 and 2/44, so the HR represent my experience. HR can not cover everything – soundness is the most important. Play as you think Allied commander would do...
$ M& g# c' v, X+ R这是房规, 我的目的是为了接近实际(RL 我猜是 real life)并保持游戏的趣味. 房规可以进一步讨论. 我现在正在玩两盘游戏, 1/43, 2/44, 房规代表了我从我经历的观点.房规并不全面----- 公平是最重要的. 我们玩的时候要考虑到盟军指挥官实际怎么作战的(翻得不好,就是不要gamey,要真实的意思)) \( [5 `( S7 ?6 q0 R4 Y7 k( q+ ]; l6 V
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Day 1 第一天
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8 i0 b9 [( l# Q/ ~6 Z1.No attack on CV.
, d3 f0 U6 ]; t0 b不许攻击CV7 C9 |% C7 B/ Q2 t( v8 z
2.Only 1 port attack.
' S, M3 u4 q8 J8 L, D% D只能攻击1个港口. d! ^+ n3 p& p; Y
3.Only 2 attack on PH during the first couple of days, then at least two weeks no attacks.
- p  q/ b. g3 b+ B" N, w( k在最初的几天只能对PH攻击两次,然后2周之内不能再次攻击.9 P( `" W) W. ~  o  e
4. Only realistic movement on day one (no PM, Pago Pago or Amboina landings).; J6 x# \$ a( I( k" |, ], f. L
第一天只能作可能的移动(不许在莫尔思比,爬过爬过或安文登陆)
% ?2 ?1 A3 F! W9 s5.Allied player can only change orders in china.
# X2 c7 S. w7 C第一天盟军只能在中国下命令# O) k# m+ G& L( j" f

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' H3 g( A8 t2 z# W$ }3 G1. Russia must warned one week before invasion (i.e. declare war and wait one week).- Y9 N7 B% r0 Y' ^) m
入侵苏联要提前一周通知,即激活一周内不战, [5 S% a& }9 R- a, W0 B
2.Allied pilots must come from pool. If the pool is empty, unexperienced pilot can not be taken. Chinese, Dutch and Russian pilots can do that.3 q( E& g0 I2 A/ A8 u6 N
除了中国 荷兰 苏联以外,盟军飞行员必须从补充池内来,不许用菜鸟
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3呢?
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. i: \- K7 _  R, X) J/ k4. Allied units can be landed only from TF with at least one half AP or landing crafts.
# T  ]* ]- u1 {$ X3 j盟军登陆的运输TF至少有一半是AP或专门的登陆设备., M& R/ f' S- m& V
5.Dutch and PHI units must have replacement off, if they have not any city with size 3+. Timor is not considered as Dutch territory.
8 f0 I' ~* b& J5 ~! _荷兰和菲律宾部队要关闭补充,除非在3级以上基地. 帝文不认为是荷兰领土(这个有什么影响?).; Y% ~# Q- L) S8 `5 e( w* g7 c5 P  N
6.If Burma road is cut by Jap unit(s), all Chinese units out of china must be set as No replacements.
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7.No mining from planes
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. }9 H$ M" W: k/ h* z8. When the base is captured, AF can be used after the same number of days as AF size.
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9. If atoll is occupied and Japanese units are still present, the AF can not be used.8 k' o: o6 F5 Z- }9 p2 \1 p
环礁被占领而且日军部队仍未被清除,环礁机场不能使用.
6 @+ ?% c0 W* D10.Only base or dot could be place for landing (same paras). 8 L$ P. Z: C* u4 U! d2 f+ V* A; m
只有基地和尚未成为基地的"点"可以登陆或空降
1 s. t$ U& o2 Z5 I$ H" a11. No sub commandos.
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1 f4 i6 D* K! r. n12.Paras can attack only as whole unit.
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16.The shift of units using HQ change is banned.4 V, A5 X6 W- A( @
不许靠改属调动部队
8 H2 |4 e; P) P17.Units in Mandzukuo must have at least 8000AS
8 R. I1 i; b# [满洲部队不能低于8000
4 F4 j" T0 R9 X8 m6 q18.Jap units in China could be used only there, if china is not occupied. The same for Chinese units (Indochina is considered as China).- l  \# V: Z' Z, Y: P6 L6 Q
如果中国战场没有解决,中国派遣军不能调作他用.同样中国军队也需遵守.(中南半岛可以算作中国区域). p2 }* ^/ `1 e) {
19.Chinese troops under SEA command can be used only in Barma.
0 m; N6 {8 j3 S9 E+ t; M东南亚司令部下辖的中国军队只能在缅甸作战(译者:撤退到印度行不行?)., q8 g6 E# ~! U  H' F9 L5 q# R
20.4E minimum naval attack altitude is 15000 stop.' s# I6 A  ^1 A
4发对海15000以上5 H* R1 q- Q4 c: h/ V: V8 X  y
21.No upgrade 2E to 4E with exception of Bolo planes.( ~& c. Q+ Q; C
2发不能升级成4发,除了开始的几个bolos飞行队
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7/43后4e才能在中国作战,不能轰炸中国城市(应该是指战略轰炸)2 O% l4 }5 M' ?. J7 u
23.No 4E naval attacks after 1942.
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3 j+ E: y. g8 y6 k4 r24.If the dot base is 0/0, AF and port could be expanded only to size 1.
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# I0 r6 T; a1 o1 q3 ]  g7 I2 a8 |25.Max number of planes is 50xAF size and 30xAF size on atoll.
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26.PT boats could be constructed only in ports 5+. Max number of PT operating in one hex is 12.6 h, b0 o+ K4 }  p4 W
5级以上港口才能建PT,一格最多12艘
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反潜编队最多6艘船
6 N& g: |, @2 ]! ~/ ?% tCheck it and let me know.
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6 P9 \# w" K+ u  L" I4 O9 ]& j4 \$ N[ 本帖最后由 zhengxuacmilan 于 2007-11-30 09:47 编辑 ]

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根据day 1 第4条,我觉得他的意思是不能这么做的
Tomik在官网上id是不是Tomikcm?
' e* n7 x; O5 r# r. t$ S8 _  A感觉这个规则对盟军限制不少啊 hehe
16条是确实有问题
1 `' F7 B: x+ \  K/ e+ L0 G24我的理解是潜力状态为0/0% ]5 O- N2 l; ~  @% s

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我以前在官网上看过一些aar开头的介绍
( O2 \" @* n9 \2 p' {" |" T( T8 Y他们自称非历史开局为quasi-historical, 2 y4 a/ |# d* J' B) ~& h# }: T9 A/ S
第一天日军只能攻击历史上第一天被攻击的地方,也就包括PH 马来 PHi, 和中太的一些岛屿.
- L4 ~1 I: D0 z2 j: t& S2 `盟军第一天只能移动中国的部队(似乎还有西海岸的海军)
原帖由 chars 于 2007-11-30 09:14 发表
: Y0 O3 c7 L. I0 v+ ?+ }第四条翻译可能有些不大准确+ d, ^: p) \0 I2 b
没有涉及到空降
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他的意思应该是
! _; [. _( r$ e9 y! K3 w盟军登陆必须使用一半的AP或者是用于登陆的技术装备(这里应该指的是后期的盟军步兵和坦克登陆舰)
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对的.我当时可能把craft看成aircraft了...! {+ p7 Z( W8 H
原文修改了

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第5条我当时看不是很理解
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你的翻译应该是对的,
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