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你理解错了,他是说他的经验,作为日军,一盘到01/43,一盘在44获胜
sp 开吧!; X, s0 }" h) \( E3 N- [
又有得观战了
; m" a+ ?4 z4 \# U4 W* Q2 E2 U建议这次像官网类似得详细aar (任务重啊 )
我来翻吧,做点贡献,翻得不好请指正
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回信
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I have checked proposed scenario and I would stick with standard chs if possible. There is a lot of changes and i am not sure about playability - chs has been tested intensively even in late war.* \& \  `; J* x9 D) f
我(对方)考虑了biku提议的剧本,我坚持使用chs标准剧本(难道开始提议的是浆糊的剧本?). 因为这个剧本(我方提议的剧本)有不少改变,我不确定可玩性-----chs已经被很好的测试过了.' s% d( U1 s) x/ b" B$ l. l& U

) R6 c+ y4 T  M' k% g7 r. uWitp definitely favor Japan in ship and plane building, I think no need enhance this difference., S4 j5 b% ]: a5 K& J' {
Witp 无疑在船和飞机的建造上照顾了日本,所以我觉得无需再增强日本了.
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There is my HR list. Almost everything is negotiable. I want play Allied, and almost all HR favor Japan - they purpose is a balance game.7 r7 d% B9 m% Z* j/ _8 M( h
以下是我的房规(HR),可以讨论.我希望玩盟军,这个房规是比较倾向于日方的-------为了游戏的平衡.& `" L0 }9 ^: F3 W% E

( K9 i& R. V" E4 J/ D) [3 k2 oHi Matthew, (这个我没看懂,难道是两封信? 怎么中间来了个hi?)' d7 R$ \$ l+ U' U: C
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' C3 o3 Q' O* H/ F/ N4 TThere is my HR list. It is my attempt to be closer to RL and still having fun from game... I am open to discussion. I play two games now, 1/43 and 2/44, so the HR represent my experience. HR can not cover everything – soundness is the most important. Play as you think Allied commander would do...
# G. E) ~4 t- ?1 P3 ~这是房规, 我的目的是为了接近实际(RL 我猜是 real life)并保持游戏的趣味. 房规可以进一步讨论. 我现在正在玩两盘游戏, 1/43, 2/44, 房规代表了我从我经历的观点.房规并不全面----- 公平是最重要的. 我们玩的时候要考虑到盟军指挥官实际怎么作战的(翻得不好,就是不要gamey,要真实的意思)- P& s( f8 _8 n& n) @7 y% E  a

* i1 Y8 J( ~' g: tDay 1 第一天
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3 e: i3 a. D; {6 l5 ~1.No attack on CV. , J" d4 q& `# h  P, ?
不许攻击CV
2 z  Q0 _; B9 H' C1 B" O2.Only 1 port attack. 5 J8 q! s9 o4 M' I
只能攻击1个港口& ~* @, ]9 s# H
3.Only 2 attack on PH during the first couple of days, then at least two weeks no attacks.0 o$ X, c' K% }% L
在最初的几天只能对PH攻击两次,然后2周之内不能再次攻击., Q# x. {5 ]' A. \& b0 f8 M# D+ I
4. Only realistic movement on day one (no PM, Pago Pago or Amboina landings).8 P: b5 p0 a5 ?# {
第一天只能作可能的移动(不许在莫尔思比,爬过爬过或安文登陆)" K* g# i: j( H/ C, V
5.Allied player can only change orders in china.6 f/ v3 b0 ~, W& \- P
第一天盟军只能在中国下命令
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1. Russia must warned one week before invasion (i.e. declare war and wait one week).
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2.Allied pilots must come from pool. If the pool is empty, unexperienced pilot can not be taken. Chinese, Dutch and Russian pilots can do that.
8 s: m1 V, P$ E2 n4 A除了中国 荷兰 苏联以外,盟军飞行员必须从补充池内来,不许用菜鸟
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  o$ x* \6 I* A7 u. T5 u4. Allied units can be landed only from TF with at least one half AP or landing crafts.
+ i3 P, J: r! t! e' A  I盟军登陆的运输TF至少有一半是AP或专门的登陆设备.  ]: P  c/ ]7 ~9 ^! E
5.Dutch and PHI units must have replacement off, if they have not any city with size 3+. Timor is not considered as Dutch territory. ; ~- a4 I5 x! R
荷兰和菲律宾部队要关闭补充,除非在3级以上基地. 帝文不认为是荷兰领土(这个有什么影响?)., i1 ?+ f. F: s
6.If Burma road is cut by Jap unit(s), all Chinese units out of china must be set as No replacements.; k2 O8 s7 |* y$ P. F( K( p
如果缅甸的公路被日军切断,中国远征军就必须关闭补给.% u/ @( \% i# Z
7.No mining from planes  A( W( x) m$ e5 K
不许飞机布雷6 g9 |3 ?& ~& X; V4 T
8. When the base is captured, AF can be used after the same number of days as AF size.
# u! ?' J% Z, ]4 j' A一个n级基地被占领后,其机场要在n天后才能起用.
# K/ B/ d, s' G) ^  R) k9. If atoll is occupied and Japanese units are still present, the AF can not be used.4 E' u( B0 h. S. R8 h6 F
环礁被占领而且日军部队仍未被清除,环礁机场不能使用.4 M2 c! Y- x& b7 X3 c& j0 C
10.Only base or dot could be place for landing (same paras). 5 b- d4 m/ Z/ B
只有基地和尚未成为基地的"点"可以登陆或空降7 o. K* V1 ]# E, P9 M
11. No sub commandos.
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* Q0 i# i2 H: X12.Paras can attack only as whole unit.3 Z* c: u0 k: D; H2 R; R
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16.The shift of units using HQ change is banned.
9 P! e8 h( a- @5 Q3 m) [不许靠改属调动部队+ L3 ^+ E! m% |! {. V$ E: n' ^
17.Units in Mandzukuo must have at least 8000AS
: r* E9 z4 d, X满洲部队不能低于8000
1 J9 C$ ?( O: e; |, Q18.Jap units in China could be used only there, if china is not occupied. The same for Chinese units (Indochina is considered as China).1 D) f+ M; `# m% u3 n1 R
如果中国战场没有解决,中国派遣军不能调作他用.同样中国军队也需遵守.(中南半岛可以算作中国区域)2 r$ y" m# G. t! G
19.Chinese troops under SEA command can be used only in Barma.8 ?" D; h) C3 T6 H3 |( p5 }. R6 Z! ~
东南亚司令部下辖的中国军队只能在缅甸作战(译者:撤退到印度行不行?).0 Z0 R2 B+ y6 N, p4 K
20.4E minimum naval attack altitude is 15000 stop.
4 V4 J- S* Q8 X6 }( T4发对海15000以上
+ {4 g) S. A+ C4 P; V21.No upgrade 2E to 4E with exception of Bolo planes.
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22.4E can attack from China from July 1943; no city attack on chinese towns., I4 I" o2 K$ g1 V& Z2 k
7/43后4e才能在中国作战,不能轰炸中国城市(应该是指战略轰炸)
) v; [0 a' h, `23.No 4E naval attacks after 1942.
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24.If the dot base is 0/0, AF and port could be expanded only to size 1.2 v, @$ v& S6 h9 {- A7 g
尚未升级成基地的"点",其机场和港口只能升级成1级
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最大飞机数量限制:一般基地乘50,环礁乘30
5 D, `2 h- F$ C5 w5 d; j26.PT boats could be constructed only in ports 5+. Max number of PT operating in one hex is 12.
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27.ASW TF max 6 ships.
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Check it and let me know.
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[ 本帖最后由 zhengxuacmilan 于 2007-11-30 09:47 编辑 ]

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根据day 1 第4条,我觉得他的意思是不能这么做的
Tomik在官网上id是不是Tomikcm?3 u, i4 h( R# d7 k% L
感觉这个规则对盟军限制不少啊 hehe
16条是确实有问题+ o5 q( H: m" `; Q
24我的理解是潜力状态为0/0- e  d  B. [8 l" o8 B0 X; G; Q

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我以前在官网上看过一些aar开头的介绍
9 ]5 v0 ?5 h( H# y) L他们自称非历史开局为quasi-historical, 9 o% t2 ~+ l, |, a$ z% C/ j
第一天日军只能攻击历史上第一天被攻击的地方,也就包括PH 马来 PHi, 和中太的一些岛屿.7 f8 @9 Y! B4 ?3 _3 q
盟军第一天只能移动中国的部队(似乎还有西海岸的海军)
原帖由 chars 于 2007-11-30 09:14 发表 : L) G4 P* e: P, C  {2 }3 a  x. p
第四条翻译可能有些不大准确$ T) g+ K3 f3 w  k2 h2 N
没有涉及到空降
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- `. R( C, v. ?# D他的意思应该是
0 n& |8 t% q5 F9 `: b9 J盟军登陆必须使用一半的AP或者是用于登陆的技术装备(这里应该指的是后期的盟军步兵和坦克登陆舰)
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对的.我当时可能把craft看成aircraft了...
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第5条我当时看不是很理解
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你的翻译应该是对的,
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