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[AE] AE 瓜岛 chen0529(a) vs 八戒(j)

基本房归,双发对海10000,对地15000,4发25000,运输机不得运部队。
日球第一天进攻莫港的部队就掉头往回。5架0战飞到莫港上空在做客,受到热情接待。盟军莫港外围防御部队炮击日球,莫港lb也光临上空。
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Morning Air attack on Port Moresby , at 98,1300 m7 B; {0 \) s% Q
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Weather in hex: Partial cloud
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6 Q" ]7 b, e5 Q9 KRaid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet./ R7 x2 K* D9 }' d# f9 O
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes; R% D  |: o/ V* u: `; U

+ I; `2 y# x( D7 X! VJapanese aircraft# ^$ s7 e/ V0 l# V& a1 s! ^: W9 q6 n0 O
      A6M2 Zero x 56 T* j2 H# P$ q/ p  u
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Allied aircraft
4 i1 v/ {0 p, R4 T1 P9 a# I  u      Kittyhawk IA x 14) X3 v4 U/ k( Z
      P-39D Airacobra x 11
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" r3 x; Y4 h2 I! @5 CJapanese aircraft losses
% U/ `/ w% L; f( O9 X- Y      A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed# {) W9 A2 q8 N' x4 ]9 T" e

0 V) B+ x7 |1 s4 S. R, pAfternoon Air attack on 144th Infantry Regiment, at 99,1309 N7 {4 r, L  K- D3 l% S- H* I0 b
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Weather in hex: Clear sky' \1 |4 ^8 ~% X) [3 `
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Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
# u7 \- I. y% d! @Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
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0 u7 x2 b7 ?/ o1 s6 lAllied aircraft
* S- T# k" H, i" t: S- t0 w; l7 T      Beaufort V x 4
* K# |5 l, _3 O; w      P-39D Airacobra x 6% M! G* Z: d& L8 `

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No Allied losses
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Japanese ground losses:
  k; d1 a! }2 S2 C0 N      12 casualties reported
) G% X# Y" t* y         Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled+ S5 P4 u5 N3 r' |
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
  O% ]! V# B2 j: N7 N! G6 b2 b         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
我感觉AE的平衡性做的很烂,该强的地方不强,不该强的地方又特别强.一味强调真实导致没有游戏性.4 u% d& ^. {% w: T& e
拿瓜岛来说,日本几乎没有拿的出手的战斗力,只是被挨打,包括航母也是.飞机少,战斗力弱.
我也是这么认为的,真实太强,导致日军很被动,后期就更不用说了,不知道有什么秘密武器或者利好支撑日军玩家玩全场?
8 p: l0 X8 U7 j: p可能就是老手的日军对付我等新人盟军,可能才有乐趣了
本帖最后由 chen0529 于 2009-7-31 04:39 编辑
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7 T2 w; _- b0 O$ d有这么夸张吗?% A0 S7 N/ m' {$ p
不排除游戏第一版平衡性是不够好。但是你们有问过自己仔细读过手册知道ae跟原版在计算方面有哪些不一样吗?自己的战法适应新的模式吗?才玩几天就跳出来说这种话。
新人说话不严谨,老手们请原谅
小心被T,AE出来才几天,你就盖棺定论啦!
对酒高歌,江山入手,或为帝王,或为豪杰!
如为宵小,鬼魅群丑,惟知祢阿,必无所成......
老大们抓个图看看啊,玩不上急的哥们直跳啊
楼上请找老赵
Aug 07, 42
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# A! C4 H; j, L安静到死,这就是传说中的暴风雨前的平静吗?
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唯一战斗时莫港外双方炮击对射,结果是鬼子伤亡7个
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* Z3 `2 I% l5 N1 U8 |; |另外我在拉鲍尔基地怎么一架飞机都看不见啊?这个剧本开局是这样的吗?
盟军在伦加和图拉级登录
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) u! f. U/ R* q: o2 A3 c& \首先是炮击编队射击
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7 M; e5 t; Q8 V) `8 W! }Naval bombardment of Tulagi at 114,137
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Allied Ships
' X5 L1 H; m6 o9 [5 |# |& {      CA Vincennes; Z. l; O0 V# B% J1 T* q" ^
      CLAA San Juan
8 s2 M: L" x% O$ f" `; d      DD Blue
" v. c: {1 w7 T/ W2 Q      DD Bagley2 t" b( N9 ?0 [

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      44 casualties reported6 e4 o. ^3 b$ n; `; L$ K/ f
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled6 Y6 L3 p( T2 l1 z
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
/ Y. F, l1 |; v7 y         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled5 u) w, A% r: ~9 Y. s
      Guns lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)5 c, j% ^) N5 m7 e% H  @4 V
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/ \0 w5 r" S' K6 r; \5 T8 BPort hits 3! a- @+ I* m% ^& B) d5 o  c

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, h2 G5 q' r$ E. y; }( M2 cNaval bombardment of Lunga at 114,138 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!1 m6 h" h/ P% U* Z7 c( Y  W' ]

& u' B  \5 z1 X+ v2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense." U# v( ?6 E' p; D) U5 o$ c

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      CA Quincy1 `; e: f5 v7 F/ P$ H  q1 p
      CL Hobart
/ G, I# k' t3 w4 {7 e      DD Hull7 q+ z- H2 @- _
      DD Dewey
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Japanese ground losses:8 l* r: L/ V8 d. K8 z
      26 casualties reported6 V. ]7 P* {! w$ b, I) o2 }0 c$ {
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
( n, I3 p6 c; y         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
1 [, i1 W0 a# o. f; Y         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
7 \1 h9 k% [% u4 d      Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)
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Airbase hits 12 Z2 \+ {5 t: q$ R
Airbase supply hits 1( w- v" u* J5 Q  Y6 r
Runway hits 25 K0 l# ^5 R) j& j6 T# a

5 G8 m- A; J5 g& D8 [然后是登陆部队的再次压制和登录0 L4 z4 O( [% L' t
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伤亡100来号人,2船被命中,轻伤. i2 `  T9 q8 P! i9 M
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之后30架B-17光临莱城,不过35000尺的高度轰炸没有任何效果
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Aug 09, 42
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  Z% r( x: q$ c6 ^日球的巡洋舰编队果然光临伦加滩头,和掩护的盟军ca编队打了一场夜战。基本上谁都没占到便宜。但是八戒的情报部门居然报告击沉澳大利亚号,而实际上澳大利亚号连重创都不是。难道现在开了迷雾后intelligence report都有水分了?
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% c2 w- k1 s" d$ J- ]6 k, rNight Time Surface Combat, near Tulagi at 114,137, Range 23,000 Yards" _0 g+ `' k& a$ p
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Japanese Ships1 W- k6 n. w- D: e6 P. W5 L$ I
      CA Chokai
" ^# ]( }, u4 u- q7 B      CA Aoba, Shell hits 1
! m) d6 i  l7 q1 ]0 f      CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 3,  on fire
) ?& m' u: w1 J: P      CA Furutaka, Shell hits 1
3 i! B. X9 A3 _) C; m+ j      CA Kako
$ W/ K: x! t. _; N4 P2 d/ r      CL Tenryu, Shell hits 1
8 H0 L2 p0 |( A5 _) R+ G: o      CL Tatsuta, Shell hits 4,  on fire
% M5 E) l& o! D      CL Yubari, Shell hits 1% ?# x! p9 _" ?6 u7 ^
      E Yunagi
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$ O, }: P) C4 D. M# Y* N      CA Chicago, Shell hits 4: k6 L9 o3 E: k1 O
      CA Astoria, Shell hits 1
% C& I& o3 t9 A/ x      CA Australia, Shell hits 5,  on fire: K% D7 L; T/ J( l0 @
      CA Canberra, Shell hits 3,  on fire- d% [) K" ]9 f4 o6 J8 ^, q
      DD Monssen- h! b( _+ q. e, j4 n/ s: P
      DD Buchanan  ?7 J/ P8 M0 ?$ ?
      DD Mugford, Shell hits 1
  s$ B6 A  _' ]' E! l/ m      DD Ralph Talbot" E1 U  T0 U  k5 i& z
      DD Patterson, Shell hits 1,  on fire
# n7 Q# Q5 C6 c7 g% T( [      DD Jarvis
2 Y. B4 u; v+ \. G      DD Ellet0 L: ^# S# q8 r! ^/ |! M
      DD Wilson2 I" C1 \1 I3 _4 @# D
      DD Selfridge
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* I6 M0 m" z) v5 e$ L( s5 ]大战后日酋追击了小股卸载的盟军舰只,结果摸都摸不到,被溜掉了- g' V, q( m1 Q2 {4 O, [& H+ i0 r

3 X3 h6 j" V& K" b- P* [$ v天亮后,附近的盟军cv编队进行了上午下午两轮的热情招待,状况惨不忍睹。/ j/ C) o: G$ X# g
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( j9 W0 M5 Q' `" N7 Z8 B+ I0 j. FMorning Air attack on TF, near Russell Islands at 113,136
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Weather in hex: Partial cloud' i1 n/ C8 t6 M

$ b1 P' }6 K, V8 Y" R0 y7 P8 TRaid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
, W$ R% \+ a6 L9 R) x; o8 xEstimated time to target is 13 minutes+ H" W! F8 @0 Y, l! Y  \- B0 O1 w
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: C8 E, L! s/ T# HAllied aircraft7 N) F4 U3 r% w7 b4 V: {- U
      F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
- I/ I" l2 s3 K2 ^0 J; e9 J      SBD-3 Dauntless x 72
8 H" D5 r& Z. ~1 ~/ w$ k( ~5 _      TBF-1 Avenger x 30
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      SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged! i9 R% F6 h. W. p# l3 P5 A
      TBF-1 Avenger: 7 damaged9 v3 Q9 z+ I0 @; ?8 b; D
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Japanese Ships$ \) U  k0 |3 `8 }1 e4 v
      CL Tenryu, Bomb hits 3,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
+ Y. L* d# \" n( y* \      CA Kako, Bomb hits 3,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
, p8 g. F. L" H" ~" F; P8 p5 d      CL Yubari, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
- o3 r+ @. L5 l# P      CA Kinugasa, Bomb hits 5,  heavy fires,  heavy damage/ C" ^" R# z, a
      CA Aoba, Bomb hits 2,  heavy fires0 I! E2 R/ _! r0 ]* {' |
      CA Chokai, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage* N" m- D+ b& J* K* U7 z
      CA Furutaka, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
( O$ R9 A# [  `' {7 }* J      CL Tatsuta, Bomb hits 2,  heavy fires
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Russell Islands at 113,1366 V, i4 R- h) C
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Weather in hex: Light rain
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: h3 n5 j- s! ?7 S. B- E2 }9 sRaid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
0 [) [! a' d6 X- @Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
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) j$ Y  d/ C( H! i( ~- ?5 r/ PAllied aircraft
! P) L0 Z6 F5 _      F4F-4 Wildcat x 9. r5 I1 N, s+ a
      SBD-3 Dauntless x 699 q) B- p$ J: b6 R1 y
      TBF-1 Avenger x 24; j' ~+ @5 |; M0 |  ~; n
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      SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
  U# A( i) T1 h, }; H      TBF-1 Avenger: 8 damaged
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Japanese Ships
2 Y9 c# ^! G3 z0 V3 z) Q      CA Chokai, Bomb hits 1,  heavy fires,  heavy damage- @2 D( A: y; u; z* y7 o
      E Yunagi7 f8 d0 ]3 [' }5 l( l2 `
      CA Aoba, Bomb hits 2,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
* ]# L) |/ T& z" Q      CA Kako, Bomb hits 4,  heavy fires,  heavy damage
+ ~% g" X0 W. q2 C1 E      CL Tatsuta, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1,  heavy fires,  heavy damage5 s1 Y$ M6 _$ {/ F" M" R4 V2 W' I
      CA Furutaka, Bomb hits 2,  on fire" Y! d6 ~2 q* p( D3 O8 X
      CL Yubari, Bomb hits 5,  heavy fires,  heavy damage* K& \3 D# |8 C; K9 g% Q
      CA Kinugasa, Bomb hits 2,  heavy fires,  heavy damage% ~2 y- }! d  P: S" C7 V) M
      CL Tenryu, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
( T$ w% L3 f) {# C  J2 @ 最后的陆战,伦加顺利占领,而图拉级的部队苦于补给不足只打出1:1
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Ground combat at Tulagi (114,137)
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Allied Shock attack
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Attacking force 5894 troops, 108 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 242
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- a0 F& M- M( `4 _/ W' TDefending force 2269 troops, 28 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 33
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Allied adjusted assault: 53
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$ h- q( c* I, q3 }/ oJapanese adjusted defense: 31 5 u, r2 d0 Z3 i+ I& p" n5 U6 i
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Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)
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5 K) k& B: F6 b, \5 X+ n0 aAllied Assault reduces fortifications to 0
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4 }: M; D* C6 T5 u' _9 e2 MCombat modifiers
' }  ]8 W: T: h5 T* JDefender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
3 X  L+ H8 \' oAttacker: shock(+), leaders(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)
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2 v7 n) O5 M) m4 c* iJapanese ground losses:
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         Squads: 1 destroyed, 18 disabled
- {$ j* P0 |# X, Y( X         Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 29 disabled2 [! D" E  j. @7 c& ?+ b
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
* j4 a% C+ k1 i' w' y7 G  T      Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
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Allied ground losses:( d" |2 D8 F6 ~' T* b/ f
      66 casualties reported
3 C; m- d7 m- s7 }0 e         Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
8 \  K. z, c8 S         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
4 v1 ]; Q9 a# Z% w; I         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
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* {& C8 i& c" p) l3 x$ m# m2 SGround combat at Lunga (114,138)7 B) |, S/ q: N/ @; g# ]6 L
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Allied Shock attack1 [1 P) e% C1 Z+ m5 _
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Attacking force 10691 troops, 217 guns, 130 vehicles, Assault Value = 4449 N1 i, w( ]7 R5 U9 Y5 v
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Defending force 3950 troops, 30 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 89
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3 \9 o; c5 W8 y$ }+ J' a. @0 rAllied adjusted assault: 254
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Japanese adjusted defense: 77 - @3 G! }/ {2 z+ q0 }

: j# X8 a/ F7 s1 W; S- a& P6 L+ _Allied assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)
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Allied forces CAPTURE Lunga !!!
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5 O# O. B8 b# f) V4 QDefender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
  T* }( J3 Y. k4 R1 M3 `& c+ [9 AAttacker: shock(+), supply(-)0 K& K- [' W5 [3 _8 W: [
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Japanese ground losses:' C. ~* A6 M% o% A
      2629 casualties reported
3 Y! x% r; d1 o8 g         Squads: 31 destroyed, 21 disabled7 i- k7 A- R% N  }* J
         Non Combat: 74 destroyed, 41 disabled
% d0 {& O8 ~1 t/ y# y7 Y2 Y         Engineers: 72 destroyed, 3 disabled, [5 P2 {+ G  Z% V1 K/ a% G$ t
      Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)7 v' T7 }  l& N0 E4 ~
      Vehicles lost 6 (6 destroyed, 0 disabled)
: V5 u. s! Y3 j9 T      Units retreated 44 o1 v7 ~& g7 @
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! p# E" U* g7 }+ ?3 s/ z! EAllied ground losses:- z; |; H/ o% L3 o
      243 casualties reported
! g9 A. b% [  s( h5 ~  ]         Squads: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled, x: K. K& f  G0 B6 T3 L4 o$ ^
         Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 36 disabled& B  s! y  H6 U, u
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
+ D+ X4 y2 |2 S0 H% C      Vehicles lost 4 (0 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Aug 10, 42
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刚说完,澳大利亚号在晚上被潜艇偷鸡,命中2雷,沉了. b8 K; R" h. n& q% B" j
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白天空军攻击了莱城机场,也没什么像样的战果,之后伦加附近cv编队又干掉了一个路过的舢板编队! N$ i2 i5 i$ y' s" M+ i

! L1 |# Z) C& u! n今日唯一战果是突击后拿下图拉级; S9 D' h# m2 {0 y
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Ground combat at Tulagi (114,137)
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+ A, q4 @6 Q! |$ R$ M& bAllied Shock attack
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Attacking force 5819 troops, 108 guns, 30 vehicles, Assault Value = 236' U. N! s' h7 d' k

0 f. o- M" k  C8 c2 yDefending force 1835 troops, 28 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 155 T7 ~4 v! s, W3 z  p# R  j5 a+ o1 V
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Allied adjusted assault: 113
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Japanese adjusted defense: 10
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4 f' K1 \* S+ t2 T+ CAllied assault odds: 11 to 1 (fort level 1)   N/ D: W3 w* G3 }* J; ^9 Y
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Allied forces CAPTURE Tulagi !!!
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Combat modifiers9 f/ A" I" ]: `6 z; V+ Y( j
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)
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Attacker: shock(+), fatigue(-), supply(-)
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4 G7 t3 d! q# L+ _Japanese ground losses:
% j) {# @& }, |- T( B& X      888 casualties reported8 K- v' x0 [: k7 i/ N1 G8 c
         Squads: 8 destroyed, 5 disabled
' Q8 H; o8 K; a         Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 26 disabled
0 ~2 G4 {) _, i! i/ }         Engineers: 44 destroyed, 0 disabled# }9 v- C" U. Z4 K# A; |
      Guns lost 5 (4 destroyed, 1 disabled), m% U+ x( p8 P& K) [
      Vehicles lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)
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" P( j" R0 R. Z/ RAllied ground losses:
3 r4 w' i5 v; F# A. S) z) h      84 casualties reported2 Y- J* |/ r' {! Y7 n3 P* }
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
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      Guns lost 2 (0 destroyed, 2 disabled)
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一天无所事事,发现派出去轰炸的眼镜蛇选成了加挂副油箱,结果成了机枪扫射
扫射投下去的副油箱  会有燃烧弹的效果......
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