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44年的反击 HONDA 桑的荣耀

Raverdave 与 Honda 桑的“DARK SIDE OF MOON”是于44年日军仍占优的战报
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相比大家熟悉的PAUK桑,HONDA桑在直到42年初成功占领了印度(未攻下卡拉奇)及澳洲大部但KB受创。  N8 y) m: v4 h- M2 K8 j9 {
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以下为双方主要战舰损失:
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5 f9 x  o1 g: W% W/ S) K以上可见 实际上HONDA损失了以赤诚为首的4艘CV/CVL 相比PAUK桑的完美KB将少近200架舰载机。
. j7 Y8 t, a  P, Y由于美军CV能重生 HONDA桑在44年面临的较不利的兵力比。
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但一切都在44年6月被打破了& I, b' ]8 O+ y4 K( }

1 G! V. s% ^  T0 X& M" Q7 `与几乎所有成功的日军反击一样 - ]) N" F& g5 x& ^) ?: G, k
首先在米军进攻中 以岸基战斗机消耗米军的战力$ M. ], i; H. N, T9 ^

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Japanese aircraft # L5 ?# {: y7 j0 T! [: {& b+ i
A6M5 Zeke x 147
4 i7 H8 G7 X; m( r" KJ2M Jack x 38
. q8 _# K4 A1 s* a& p) ^0 u1 SKi-43-IIIa Oscar x 31 , |5 N. b  f3 P4 x
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 6
7 {7 u$ a" Q$ NKi-84-Ia Frank x 30 ( O8 i0 @6 \/ N  E7 u
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Allied aircraft ; _5 K, i; V# t& e* A7 j5 O( G
FM-2 Wildcat x 68 : }: J$ F+ ?# F0 d2 X
F6F Hellcat x 182 3 T! q- i  H1 \" G( _( s  b3 \
Hellcat II x 6 2 d7 t' Z( }; U  _1 e6 d' v% E
SB2C Helldiver x 174
! l8 F: Q" z# F+ F, C1 j/ kBarracuda x 12
# N9 L5 ?. v; f; a& |  n9 \TBF Avenger x 50
1 ]( y' a( y# N* }. A- ~TBM Avenger x 232
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Japanese aircraft losses
, r$ w' v" D- D. W% [A6M5 Zeke: 88 destroyed
2 l; g* @& Q& Y9 B4 C* cJ2M Jack: 18 destroyed, 2 damaged . Z$ j, l& b# b# s6 e9 ]# b
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 24 destroyed
7 F( {9 Q9 z5 j& C9 P2 iKi-61 KAIc Tony: 4 destroyed 2 I' A. D' L8 q7 G* i
Ki-84-Ia Frank: 14 destroyed, 2 damaged ) J; S6 j' A. n6 }

8 H% ?' W/ l7 ^/ SAllied aircraft losses ) c' Z: V# V; f0 f+ |  G- ?9 a9 q
FM-2 Wildcat: 66 destroyed 2 _+ ^! X2 u  y' O) z9 D" Q8 N8 U
F6F Hellcat: 143 destroyed
' F+ r( o) {6 J7 A; v5 i4 A% xHellcat II: 4 destroyed
9 W4 F$ |% ]6 K0 P1 ?SB2C Helldiver: 30 destroyed, 10 damaged
3 v- ]" C1 B1 n3 ?, w2 fBarracuda: 1 destroyed
1 x+ |5 q1 e- l6 e6 c8 @9 YTBF Avenger: 10 destroyed, 7 damaged 3 W' L9 G4 u/ i2 z4 l
TBM Avenger: 45 destroyed, 13 damaged 1 e1 h' z3 F. i' C  p  {
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Japanese Ships
: o1 n( B0 o- U  N& H' n; o$ jAK Fukuei Maru, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage ! N! X+ J; s: R4 z2 E$ }" b
MSW Chitose Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
" K2 h3 }! S: {. T0 d$ U4 xAK Amaho Maru, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
, ^. _7 ?- z" u, M# cAK Oyama Maru, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage + m1 ?# _1 S  h- ?% }2 O
MSW Toshi Maru #2, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
9 m5 Q& Y2 K0 f, Y, eMSW Atsu Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
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MSW Choyo Maru #2 : }, {* d) U2 ^) A. n
AK Yamabato Maru, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage 9 D4 d1 w3 d' e) c
MSW Wa 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
, Q' P# y% z& O. e3 F! x. J- iMSW Tama Maru #2, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
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& z9 l8 ~" X1 v; x4 bAircraft Attacking: . n6 w  I5 @! q) x3 E
Day Air attack on Truk , at 63,78 * w# D& D+ R2 A( n( R7 A0 J

, K3 M- o1 W! J/ YJapanese aircraft
- w5 C. I3 P2 e6 U7 }A6M5 Zeke x 75
1 C( s- K3 ~& d1 tJ2M Jack x 25 $ ~0 ~, \1 s/ T8 U+ [6 `" x
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar x 8
. V( |% t' M( {Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 8
3 f5 Y( o$ c* ^Ki-84-Ia Frank x 19
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0 Y1 I6 \8 U4 DFM-2 Wildcat x 60 1 K9 f& t( n; Z+ c6 Q9 b4 x, w3 U
F6F Hellcat x 142
3 u$ Q  A* _! O- mHellcat II x 4
5 q- H- U8 S+ N0 YSB2C Helldiver x 137 / ~. g; R; X2 U
Barracuda x 10 : b' C3 _4 G' _! F
TBF Avenger x 37 4 K6 n: P* w" V) b' v
TBM Avenger x 185
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A6M5 Zeke: 43 destroyed
' V" ~  X! P) S; k+ f( sJ2M Jack: 15 destroyed " Y; @+ T, {8 w
Ki-43-IIIa Oscar: 5 destroyed
  U; S* q0 a4 RKi-61 KAIc Tony: 6 destroyed
5 c$ j; L4 [6 o! ]6 xKi-84-Ia Frank: 16 destroyed : o' [2 `4 t9 `* n. r, l7 M( V
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Allied aircraft losses $ h0 X4 A7 ]2 w1 ]5 o
FM-2 Wildcat: 40 destroyed
" E5 U; D9 |2 `1 ]F6F Hellcat: 102 destroyed 9 x2 i3 t+ g' e; I7 [
Hellcat II: 2 destroyed
5 u( c" m1 L7 t, h/ C7 q+ |8 xSB2C Helldiver: 15 destroyed, 30 damaged
$ r- ~( e1 F& `/ U8 i( n1 kTBF Avenger: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
8 ], r% ~: z" N+ c4 zTBM Avenger: 21 destroyed, 48 damaged
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4 v! _: {. _( _/ V+ _3 J& W  j& FJapanese Ships
$ h1 l! c4 n* W# F. B/ nAP Hakozaki Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
5 ~8 ?6 k. {( r, t+ X/ vAP Amakusa Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
( h/ _$ r) p/ \% ]) gAP Nichiai Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire ' P$ N: c! E6 B) O
ML Naryu, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
3 D  Y& }4 r. D, gAP Neikai Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire : w. R- j& A( {& B" B& g
DD Namikaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire + T0 k6 K( }3 }
AP Toko Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage 2 B9 {4 l: t6 W% _% t
AP Shoun Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire ! M+ ]1 e! `  U% p1 F
AK Ina Maru, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage / q5 n$ M6 Q* e" r, g
AP Zenyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
% R7 X8 [0 S5 F2 y0 D0 dML Shirakami, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage & c- L" R+ z3 H4 \+ J+ I
SS RO-33, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage - }0 L; K0 F& s' s3 V7 l6 x
AP Chifuku Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire
( R* c6 S; l. X+ WAP Somedono Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage , G4 k0 d4 I8 z, g# {
AP Urato Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage 1 b8 F; X8 a8 h/ R$ ]. f
AP Shozan Maru, Bomb hits 2 2 o  t  D/ g( w, y1 y* z/ ?
DD Karukaya, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
0 `: U9 I; H0 V4 b: v& FAP Koan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage % \; a0 i) a* c, k: Y% I
AP Giyu Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
$ ~0 j8 c4 C( p9 `: APG Saiko Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage 9 b9 P  C$ j; H1 O! Q
AP Hinko Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
- f9 m7 K4 [+ y# G7 Z( x; ?AK Isuzugawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage , y3 Z. d0 r& \( p- u
PG Myoken Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage - f  b% o: c. i5 z7 U7 H
AP Hanakawa Maru, Bomb hits 1 . W: S% n. F; @+ `0 j6 o( B
AK Hyuga Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
, u% x4 h* `6 _9 PAP Teizui Maru, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage * J# N$ y$ E. S8 d# n
AP Anzan Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
4 I5 @& N3 k% pAP Fusemi Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
" ]9 C' S/ B& OAG AG-353, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage % O+ a8 P1 J- l9 w
AP Kashiwara Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire " i( i4 W5 |# _& b. T
AK Tokiwasan Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
5 x: j1 q4 t* P  ]+ iAP Eiko Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
" T$ d2 w- g% R' o7 WAP Sanura Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
1 v& B2 v* L( F* k; |MSW W.4, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
" J8 ~/ y5 u$ Q  K1 p, ~3 q  zAP Tatuho Maru, Bomb hits 1 & Z' [* Y5 a# T" {* T$ {
AP Tatuwa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage 2 n) _6 o( a, B' U! Y  `! a4 z$ t
AP Hakutetsu Maru #13, Bomb hits 1, on fire
# q5 G) f  t7 j  u$ CAP Kasima Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
7 E4 m1 m' v' i, |/ \4 p4 u2 K! RAP Taizin Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage 3 t: I; }/ S( x2 N/ O0 n$ B( ]
PG Nanpo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
7 F8 W+ k' B' h5 `( K9 |; _- t  A0 E, x( ]* ~MSW W.9, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
: f1 F1 x2 ^% t" i9 z. j* wAP Taijima Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire 3 e, V9 A& \/ E3 x8 z6 s$ ?9 u/ z
AP Kumakawa Maru, Bomb hits 1
( R: t* J- L4 D/ hAK Cheribon Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
2 a; t3 H0 d# ]! x) Y% E4 e8 WAP Hawaii Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage ) g& F+ ]% [# R
PG Eifuku Maru, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
7 T: K- F5 \- ZAP Ryoyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire ' M! W- a7 g. |! L' u
AP Toko Maru #2, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage 5 Y- H" ]! X9 b6 f; g
AK Tsukikawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
" g+ |  z. y9 U! `" kAP Heiku Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire 3 a/ e& _1 m, y2 p( L. v' M
PG Kantori Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire $ ^4 N% H: Y; K' p
AP Yasukuni Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
& r3 d" M( f7 z- a' b7 h% h9 XAP Tientsin Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage # i3 l, i6 V, ]: S
AP Hikade Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire   T8 Q3 V' ~- y5 s" J/ [. x3 r, z
AP Hokoku Maru, Bomb hits 1 3 B5 {2 W) s  }2 x# K9 N
AP Netsuda Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
  h+ s$ H) L$ OAPD APD-1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
3 d7 u8 t" k/ m2 O: J$ N& [+ _AP Unkai Maru #6, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
7 s' f/ t, G) }7 i- m( o7 CAP Hikawa Maru, Bomb hits 1 5 p7 ?, L; ^0 ]7 S+ u0 _3 N
PG Shinko Maru #2, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage 9 k8 @% f" m' n- Z. s' o- b9 R

1 y4 j7 z9 E9 {% Q" QJapanese ground losses:
& H* k; S- S2 x313 casualties reported / H. z  I. B/ z: r
Guns lost 17 . F8 M, K* ^6 ^2 s5 d2 p. v

8 b5 n5 v1 e" Y  z& ]Port hits 18 6 k$ L- l! {: s+ K% ~1 M" U
Port fuel hits 4 ) Q+ c# {( f0 `9 [2 U# e, y1 n9 y
Port supply hits 3
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( T$ T, p, Q' t1 T[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2008-2-23 10:18 编辑 ]
1944年6月7日 KB 登场成就了几乎无伤的完美雷霆一击  + x8 g, z5 J2 }+ \

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Japanese aircraft 6 h. w' J' ~" W* n; O3 T
A6M2-N Rufe x 24
- J1 E' L( l0 n- CA6M5 Zeke x 329
, y! [: A* t2 H" @$ [A6M3a Zero x 14 2 L  i. U' O# H* ~
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( B% E' r0 s; A% I8 ?& ]' T6 GFM-2 Wildcat x 47 2 N0 c9 N: l1 v6 W: l
F6F Hellcat x 202
( N0 ?: R3 W$ j5 d$ W3 I) p& PHellcat II x 4 ! Q0 y" a  ?2 y. ], p) @0 ]! E7 \
SB2C Helldiver x 53 ( Z' ^/ A: ?; S8 i
Barracuda x 11
4 Z6 w8 }9 U0 @: h! A3 h) X: i6 v& s5 tTBF Avenger x 79
5 g7 S6 e3 A* o  U1 R/ CTBM Avenger x 213 5 u; O: D' x  c2 H* W# o  C

$ B" w' s' l1 N0 ]9 U% e' c8 xJapanese aircraft losses
. L/ t0 A+ I- q+ FA6M2-N Rufe: 24 destroyed
4 Y' b' F6 ]7 o5 g5 BA6M5 Zeke: 134 destroyed, 18 damaged
, ?5 ]& x7 I' d+ N8 }+ ZA6M3a Zero: 14 destroyed ) }+ u3 U! y( [3 \* A0 N

6 |# ^! T* }- E/ T- }Allied aircraft losses ! m, Z$ b/ l3 e7 H6 [3 I% e
FM-2 Wildcat: 47 destroyed
8 D5 D* K1 ^  h$ v& W# p& @F6F Hellcat: 196 destroyed
) a! ?2 r2 a# [+ k' V" lHellcat II: 4 destroyed
- Y- F2 k8 h& YSB2C Helldiver: 18 destroyed, 6 damaged
3 d( |2 W( R9 x6 E7 x" O- OBarracuda: 9 destroyed
' a- r: @9 L: ^# D0 CTBF Avenger: 67 destroyed
0 T! \  N3 y- hTBM Avenger: 165 destroyed
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CVE Kaiyo ' [  c( u% R2 [/ r, p* o: O
CVL Ryuho
+ m( P! n; l; g* E/ q' a5 ?) g) [CVL Shoho
" r. R9 W. p; @4 OCVE Shinyo ; e  @' E' ^4 g- L7 i. y+ ~
CVL Zuiho ' v/ f  H: j# d  A7 \! t1 I
DD Uzuki / B  {+ n( V( i% }( g' y( Y; _! w
CVL Ryujo
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% [; x6 x+ t( jDay Air attack on TF at 75,79 % w6 J$ @; M5 X4 t$ C
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Japanese aircraft ' S+ }' R( G& D- T
A6M5 Zeke x 93
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Allied aircraft
: {. d; g4 ]* G5 j' EFM-2 Wildcat x 12 # A2 Z5 l# C+ q
TBM Avenger x 56
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  ^, K, k5 E) C5 d$ ?+ @2 k7 oJapanese aircraft losses
$ T3 P6 }+ Z: F5 ~' pA6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
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Allied aircraft losses
& N$ X* o' s8 ^: {FM-2 Wildcat: 11 destroyed   w. J: R8 x, `$ ~+ Q+ J$ [
TBM Avenger: 46 destroyed
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CVL Ryuho
: O2 `* ?% a4 H. {( hCVL Ryujo
' z2 S7 D$ r; H* ^. Y: U7 W- HCVE Shinyo 8 j5 }' D$ h7 n7 [) C5 K
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Day Air attack on TF at 75,79
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8 _- a) x, b/ P6 GA6M5 Zeke x 89 2 c7 o, B  `6 I# |, v
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- s6 T# u: L: d& JF6F Hellcat x 7 " ]+ p% ~. o6 h, v( f$ Z& i0 H1 t# `
SB2C Helldiver x 33   ?: r0 @' B0 G+ a+ d5 O
TBM Avenger x 18 * z# M/ J' p' ]$ G1 ^6 o/ _

2 O( Q1 |9 Y6 k6 tJapanese aircraft losses
7 ~2 s2 m; ]5 F$ @6 h2 _9 XA6M5 Zeke: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged   V9 H7 V2 U: I& ~: j& t5 |4 w

% X4 j1 X- C/ F! u1 \9 \Allied aircraft losses $ I+ h& ]6 E+ j; p; m9 h0 S" r9 b8 h
F6F Hellcat: 6 destroyed : b. g# W# ]5 N, f
SB2C Helldiver: 13 destroyed, 7 damaged ' B- K$ w1 K1 H* R; e5 c3 D
TBM Avenger: 16 destroyed
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  B% a% L: U+ \& z. p( ~. O3 Y0 j( fJapanese Ships
/ r/ a9 I# z0 @2 U$ k9 {: ]CVL Zuiho 9 c& i8 g3 U2 z6 @2 `, N* z
CVE Kaiyo
1 q/ M9 S$ S: y2 X1 W) \) lCVL Ryujo, Bomb hits 2, on fire 6 `8 ?9 R: ]0 X3 S2 M( B7 c
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( H. G: y0 q; z; l+ CDay Air attack on TF at 76,83
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: l# `, H2 K( o: E5 I+ EP1Y Frances x 36 0 ~9 Z) S& ?4 \& j

4 B1 e& Z1 K1 D4 y' vAllied aircraft
# l, N# K# q+ ^; mFM-2 Wildcat x 76
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- H2 z5 m8 w( p9 T6 zJapanese aircraft losses / N+ d3 g, Q- j% u" N, J: y
P1Y Frances: 24 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses
/ Z. s6 Y$ W; B& q. ?2 W: l3 c, zFM-2 Wildcat: 16 damaged # e0 m7 b7 w2 M( B5 ]
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Allied Ships
3 v" \. p% I% }! {: g" @& uAO Mascoma, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
9 Z5 t0 d9 f  eDE Osterhaus 3 I& B4 e, J# P) f7 v! o( P
AO Schuylkill " p" ^% a, |5 o, ?& V: A4 x
AE Jacob Riis
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Day Air attack on TF at 77,82 ( m4 V6 Q/ d* w2 m

8 }6 X. i( J; y" t) |( dJapanese aircraft
+ _( r4 y0 f7 B8 v9 G. K1 M( C8 JA6M5 Zeke x 24
' z3 d8 L( u3 {+ Q6 D3 zG4M2 Betty x 5
# Q* M' k1 c5 p, F! TKi-61 KAIc Tony x 6
$ @5 x) l8 o' y0 ^1 L) g4 g3 n) f" RKi-84-Ia Frank x 79
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; b1 V) M0 c2 m$ I: IAllied aircraft
  @* k& g. v" {# e5 lFM-2 Wildcat x 62
5 y9 g2 w- W5 ^- qF6F Hellcat x 224
( X- @( B. J) d; @4 IHellcat II x 8
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& V8 _- C+ E: f8 aJapanese aircraft losses
! n( `1 h! C6 U3 f% h! FA6M5 Zeke: 24 destroyed % W6 o. [; p/ S: }$ m
G4M2 Betty: 3 destroyed
- I& Y8 P8 N3 `8 [Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 6 destroyed
" x  F/ X4 A% d9 {% a- U) {Ki-84-Ia Frank: 77 destroyed " d/ j. d4 N* G) M5 m

$ `8 a) U% U- _# y, m% m% dAllied aircraft losses " \4 o0 z0 {% q# E
F6F Hellcat: 45 destroyed, 15 damaged ' g  L) e. m# I# W
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+ Y: m) ]4 G1 H5 v0 L" ?A6M5 Zeke x 215 4 z% @- Q$ }7 L* [$ [% [
D3A Val x 36 : o1 d; W  Y2 h# o
D4Y Judy x 312
# t3 A5 d+ z4 P" v  [A6M3a Zero x 10
8 w8 D/ Q6 M' o& _1 C* S4 O" PB5N Kate x 58
8 V. h. n7 k. HB6N Jill x 178 ; Y0 K, _: Z5 e- g* E' ]
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Allied aircraft : i6 {6 Y4 Q' G: ^# {! X! u( W
FM-2 Wildcat x 30
- e5 U5 r7 \% d4 ?. sF6F Hellcat x 85
, ?4 b: q1 Q- BHellcat II x 4 7 u# N+ H2 d! L* G7 [3 @/ r

5 V) u: K3 L) A$ `$ s: HJapanese aircraft losses $ a& U- W" N$ p: o- L
A6M5 Zeke: 197 destroyed
9 N8 z. a: O  `D3A Val: 5 destroyed, 6 damaged
/ R) l! t3 {5 O9 B) q- @D4Y Judy: 79 destroyed, 23 damaged
* ?9 g9 g# [6 P% r' V& l; IA6M3a Zero: 9 destroyed
$ o3 I& g( w0 H9 qB5N Kate: 23 destroyed, 10 damaged , F( ~2 F: d" w/ m5 U9 n8 H
B6N Jill: 50 destroyed, 25 damaged 3 p- \; {. H, _+ u/ V
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Allied aircraft losses
, e# u3 k  p0 `+ X, cFM-2 Wildcat: 20 destroyed
2 G6 G  w, E& w) MF6F Hellcat: 122 destroyed / B8 C: K' l3 [8 E" x) c+ R3 P
Hellcat II: 3 destroyed 2 |5 H1 p8 e: X1 c  x1 |7 M, D6 o
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Allied Ships
4 M7 [4 L7 e1 r% |9 _CV Bunker Hill, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
+ c$ |  v0 Q4 A# cCV Illustrious, Bomb hits 12, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
# k7 d- _6 W  K$ f! d! TCVL Monterey, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage : p1 z$ @! T2 V# T
CV Wasp, Bomb hits 11, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
0 E0 L7 H# ?8 A# VCVL Langley, Bomb hits 20, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage , I1 x! T6 E9 P
CVL Independence, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage 2 w$ c: i: O  L4 y+ M
CVL Cabot, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

9 v9 L6 X5 |7 o) i# ECA Canberra, Bomb hits 2 7 X, ]# K; J, J* `" U, \# e
CA Louisville % [: ?- X" u' B
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5 g$ D1 k! N8 x. G+ a* @+ aDay Air attack on TF at 77,82
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Japanese aircraft 7 \' n/ P! P" u& ~, d& Z
A6M5 Zeke x 11 / B: L6 M( `2 u" c9 T) E0 x8 p' R
B5N Kate x 18 ) q! l. K" R' \' B/ ~- m) D

* g! j2 q" K6 QAllied aircraft
2 W8 X4 s' i& F* g4 iFM-2 Wildcat x 19
$ O: p+ h# r2 Y% @2 g; S9 HF6F Hellcat x 26
! @; N4 o- g  Z0 B& `2 n: xHellcat II x 2 9 ^' e1 i7 m0 Y0 j
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Japanese aircraft losses 3 I* f+ `0 |  R4 l5 _$ r! r- w
A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed 8 \7 \0 n" m, i
B5N Kate: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged . K1 {: p2 r* I1 ^

+ R( [6 F3 W& R% fAllied aircraft losses
& V. [' B! l7 b3 [FM-2 Wildcat: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
/ B) _; z" a7 l1 oF6F Hellcat: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged
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Allied Ships & b2 @3 W0 h1 v0 i0 Y
CVL Cabot, on fire
  L) n- O% ^6 B+ R3 O+ A! [8 jCA Canberra $ u! M, O, V; o6 r" k; y
CVL Monterey, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
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2 L+ R3 O$ r" XDay Air attack on TF at 77,82
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1 r* b# h- [8 j8 D: wJapanese aircraft " p' G/ D7 ]# q/ o4 `! G( y/ E. `- n
A6M5 Zeke x 11
* s+ x9 y6 |/ E4 K2 V; GB5N Kate x 24
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! s+ J5 d" k2 O8 k# UAllied aircraft 7 h1 ^+ I: W2 x, s' Q$ H
FM-2 Wildcat x 18
7 I3 k* k- g9 a* x% c' P. NF6F Hellcat x 22
5 `  z: t: V3 {7 l, B/ XHellcat II x 2
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! f$ e* A4 b8 j& |% YA6M5 Zeke: 5 destroyed
& A# q, p3 K$ _B5N Kate: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged 9 {9 Q! a" \& ?
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Allied aircraft losses
+ t+ B$ N: |' h0 r- M$ B0 r) `FM-2 Wildcat: 1 damaged " N6 G% r$ q# k7 h
F6F Hellcat: 6 destroyed % s8 L, n1 S! q" a' p4 @8 j

6 U8 X% G. [% F' TAllied Ships ( u/ j9 y- N: Q
CVL Independence, on fire, heavy damage 5 B5 d% N6 n" B. g
CV Bunker Hill, on fire, heavy damage
0 Z8 v/ B% R* G$ x6 a/ u2 T8 w4 VCVL Monterey, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage ! z! G! b+ o+ Z9 G: F/ w7 N
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Day Air attack on TF at 75,79 - l8 P4 i6 v! y/ n1 i  G
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Japanese aircraft ( ^; e0 u8 A# V8 `2 Q9 x
A6M2-N Rufe x 3
% k" n6 C+ |& E$ E9 z8 C( N: QA6M5 Zeke x 110 8 B: |6 ^* R/ ]: O5 E! u. c
A6M3a Zero x 1 * k# W2 z/ y) ^# U" Z
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Allied aircraft
- X/ x/ E$ ^& Y; \# ]. w1 t2 zF6F Hellcat x 9 6 N$ S" k( O+ [; d1 A  L
TBF Avenger x 3 # O4 A8 M2 e1 H, Y" `* u
TBM Avenger x 2
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9 {7 G" [# s; u% x  h- jJapanese aircraft losses & i! R5 I: ]; N. ^
A6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed . w% z) |2 P( [* ?/ K8 p
A6M5 Zeke: 4 destroyed
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Allied aircraft losses 2 {' `& [1 ^# h" \7 C" Z% n9 h- K2 c
F6F Hellcat: 9 destroyed
; I& m  ]+ d: xTBF Avenger: 3 destroyed " z' Q! m$ s' G% n9 @
TBM Avenger: 2 destroyed
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9 u4 ^7 S8 _, K$ lDay Air attack on TF at 75,79 3 U/ f% H9 B, e/ i8 b# W7 m

2 m2 h/ T2 X  T, mJapanese aircraft 9 A- A+ c0 t& m5 w
A6M5 Zeke x 106
# s6 h/ Q$ ?' y: V0 [) LA6M3a Zero x 1
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" h0 W' K8 N* B, V+ `: E& ?9 GAllied aircraft : ?; R4 m+ o7 I6 E$ I& ^% P7 x; H
FM-2 Wildcat x 4
! t! m, c; o4 c0 k. ATBM Avenger x 2
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Japanese aircraft losses
! y, o, g0 @( N/ x: A9 m0 K+ a- hA6M2-N Rufe: 1 destroyed ; V! a5 @) @% G4 e& e% e" J
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Allied aircraft losses # k2 j) v! u: B4 a0 s  d) D5 f- ]
FM-2 Wildcat: 4 destroyed 1 a" @7 a$ [" n+ n1 n8 j; S
TBM Avenger: 2 destroyed
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( ]( `9 F& A0 C8 U  \Day Air attack on TF at 76,81 4 W* u& R/ f% o
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Japanese aircraft
+ n: S7 ^" |7 o) M& qP1Y Frances x 14
) T' _; b4 _7 Z4 ?+ AKi-84-Ia Frank x 3 ' w* U+ o% p7 B3 S) G" e
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Allied aircraft
+ }8 Q; `0 U9 \, @2 D2 W$ K# eF6F Hellcat x 18
& ]8 o5 }) g6 t8 t* h' p
9 X9 i/ a$ g! D. C" @Japanese aircraft losses
( A% M6 ?! T6 O8 u" D# l2 P& f) C! GP1Y Frances: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged
$ ^7 s8 X& w1 U1 s" hKi-84-Ia Frank: 3 destroyed / p" s9 W# s3 V) J4 n+ b: z) O
# d+ o/ x6 ~6 V8 J) q
Allied aircraft losses
  o. t& z: ]  jF6F Hellcat: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
+ @1 S$ ?7 V7 m) A' q6 E) Z4 e* }3 M
! ?3 H5 H" `, B1 u  L; S

& e( H4 f# [  Z/ N, e4 vDay Air attack on TF at 76,81
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4 K2 B" ?6 p' q) z$ z+ {7 N8 mJapanese aircraft
  X1 H% S# a$ o) ?. }; h$ eA6M5 Zeke x 83
# t& c. z9 b/ ~* q/ T1 G$ rD3A Val x 24
4 T$ J1 g9 ]! c  W; }1 JD4Y Judy x 194
( `# ^0 [6 O) k$ e, ?B5N Kate x 50
' x5 X5 g4 @4 H1 _4 vB6N Jill x 100 0 f- h- G2 r; [4 _8 i
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Allied aircraft
# N& T7 Y& P7 h: o2 q9 OF6F Hellcat x 17 $ w7 ?5 I; a! ^( O2 Q7 e. b

" g0 j; p2 i: G% C0 _" oJapanese aircraft losses ( w& m( P; c3 _$ z3 u! r8 a3 G
A6M5 Zeke: 15 destroyed, 1 damaged
1 f$ A1 B; n& i6 kD3A Val: 4 damaged
" }! `, B% n9 w8 A2 wD4Y Judy: 7 destroyed, 11 damaged
% U- A, c2 G& Y" wB5N Kate: 6 destroyed, 16 damaged
* n$ L7 Q4 e" d! d5 Q. Z9 @B6N Jill: 7 destroyed, 21 damaged & p5 {/ O2 Q/ B/ [  y
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Allied aircraft losses " E$ b( f# D% r+ l
F6F Hellcat: 17 destroyed 7 G" e' h7 h( P: v( E  u: Y

/ Q' \7 o- q$ e+ ~( sAllied Ships
+ g' `$ {* Y( l: W1 [CVE Suwannee, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
5 w  x6 c2 F' X) G2 d$ dCA Astoria, Bomb hits 1, on fire ! P- s2 R+ A4 H9 h) x7 C
CVE Chenango, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
- }' n. C% r5 ~3 |CV Lexington, Bomb hits 20, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
# s% i( F  _: ^$ k" LCVL San Jacinto, Bomb hits 11, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
% I0 p' Q6 z# c% cCVE Sangamon, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage 9 @$ l/ K9 F, U' C3 z9 D3 z
CV Franklin, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
% ?6 |/ t( D4 _# GCVL Bataan, Bomb hits 12, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

; r  k- F2 x$ Q+ f5 j& RCA Concord
) r+ G7 i2 l3 W, kCL Hobart, Torpedo hits 1- z2 w- @9 O4 G. V1 w0 w- ~9 \
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由上可见 44年日军须有以下成功要素:  R* b) w9 U4 K2 B' O7 \+ x
1, 完整的KB) N: z8 C. w& N; k
2, 坚强的基地(让米军陷入 日军在中途岛的困境)$ I" c/ V) ^+ h' S
3, 高经验的海航(HONDA 的海航经验在80-90)
2 N. i- G* ^; J8 l1 o* h) ?/ ]8 f" d4,    足够数量的战斗机(即便面对被岸基大大削弱的TF58 日军战斗机也以重创为代价来保证攻击机突防)1 i+ n' i/ X7 x, t) {( }
5, TF58须被大幅削弱
  `6 c( L5 x" L: j6, 不能有大量的F4U(最好英军的CV在前期被击沉)* m* t$ t1 N. o* ^& Y, ~5 N

! |" l1 X7 M0 a/ }1 _( d# c) C总之 HONDA桑成就了 一战击毁5 CVs 、6 CVL、3 CVE(可能战果还会扩大)的完美反击2 U4 c" k3 x2 d  N( O, k

( {% Q$ Z7 d, b9 N, Q" z; I0 G以上为在下的抛砖引玉
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2 L& \, R/ y% H希望同好们周末快乐! BANZAI!
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5 r4 W" D7 J: g  g' ?* |[ 本帖最后由 talentpanzer 于 2008-2-23 11:09 编辑 ]
研究中,美军为什么要试图攻打土鲁克呢?那地方感觉足够硬
这就是不限单格舰载机数的明例啊~
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  ]* g# I/ [& c$ A800架的特大号协同实在是匪夷所思啊
不能这么说,在44年以后就不能用房归对于日军作限制,否则米军指挥官也太次了。
这一次光舰载机日本就多了一倍,还有陆基,神仙也得完蛋...
TF 58 舰载机数量不少 只是在攻击吐鲁克时有损耗
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, I3 Z# e( h/ D. j) N) O- I限单格舰载机数 对盟军也很不利
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5 R/ V% D9 |" e6 w' Y' ?/ _这局是限制 机场容量的。 对于后期攻略众多基地的米军而言 限制岸基 不限舰载的规则是有利的
单从KB的完整 和盟军44年后的永久损失来看 还是PAUK桑 的战报的交换比吓人, j) \* B. j1 f. E/ ?4 s, X
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这个战报中 HONDA桑的反击是建立在 KB受过削弱 米军却已重生的基础上的
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能有这样的完胜 说明!  用日军的玩家 要有信心 不要TJ!
这局日本开了PDU吗?怎么TRUK第一波的时候日本这边还有奥斯卡......
原帖由 talentpanzer 于 2008-2-23 11:51 发表 1 h2 u. A- Z2 w) G6 z
单从KB的完整 和盟军44年后的永久损失来看 还是PAUK桑 的战报的交换比吓人* n( o, t. O) r3 }9 D
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这个战报中 HONDA桑的反击是建立在 KB受过削弱 米军却已重生的基础上的9 p6 X8 L/ Y+ }% v7 F- v

3 W$ O3 h: \8 u. M+ L% F% Y能有这样的完胜 说明!  用日军的玩家 要有信心 不要TJ!
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这个战报说明日军要想44获胜,唯一的条件是盟军玩家与自己存在代差
这战报在国内明显不实用~~看看F6F的损失就知道F6F的飞行员根本没经过训练~换做80经验的F6F不可能有这样的结果~~另外对于盟军傻了巴鸡的行动
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所以各位观众~不要认为该战报有什么了不起的地方~这只是盟军的水平还有差距而已~~
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/ R, `7 i( q' c5 F另外用载机数限制单格CV数量没什么不妥~~否则到了44年~~相同水平情况下~~日本面对盟军登陆没有任何办法~~
I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears, and sweat.
本来就是激励大家 8 [' j& s5 W3 O5 @4 D

. ^* ]  N5 \, c7 i4 }$ ^在国内44年遭遇这种失败,估计米军头子是没脸见人了
如果盟军打算TJ,我报名替补
一万年太久,只争朝夕!
肥龙san捡破烂捡上瘾了...
开疾风的那些家伙好象也不怎么样啊
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